[blackbird]

I will claim it too. The long cave can be kept by this way. Nothing special, but maybe one big tomb if it can fit.

[Thrignar Fraxix]

Post the picture please

edit: lolninja

[blackbird]

Double posting for uploading road map.

[Nemon]

Looks nice, granted. Make sure to have fun!

[Thrignar Fraxix]

Jesus cocks has it really been a month minus a week already since I put these claims up? Time flies when you're around ham I guess.

Anyway, please post an update in the next week or this will be revoked.

[blackbird]

Is it ok if I post an update only in the 4-17-Hla thread?

[Thrignar Fraxix]

Sure I guess.

[Nemon]

Is this being updated in the 4-17 thread?

[Haplo]

Don't forget to post the 4-48 cells here, since I think you cut them out of your 4-17 file.

[Haplo]

Since I just submitted 4-17 to reviewing, I will start the 30-day claim timeframe today, as if this claim were granted today.

[blackbird]

I have upated the claim with a dirty file. I had no time to clean it.

[Haplo]

Hey blackbird, this needs an update soon!

[blackbird]

This claim has been updated (and should be clean).

[blackbird]

I have a problem:
There should be a road connection between 4-48 and 4-49 according to TF's images. I have read the thread of 4-49 again and I found it's confusing to determine whether there shouldn't be road from 4-49 to 4-48 or 4-23.
What should happen. I think there are 4 possibilities.
1. A difficult road made from stone (and maybe wood) should be added on 4-49.
2. There will be no road connection between 4-48 and 4-49 and I'll delete that piece of road.
3. There will be a road from 4-49 to 4-48, but the road crosses 4-23 too. I think it's the least good option.
4. Nothing happens right now, and this will be dicussed and decided at the m4 detailing threads.

[Thrignar Fraxix]

I don't get why it is so hard to understand those maps. There should be a road there and I don't get how it got missed.

[Tyrion]

We had this discussion while I was editing 4-49 and I thought it was agreed upon for the current layout. I certainly was under that impression, and I thought I was following orders, I did not simply neglect to put a road there, I was told not to. In any event I would argue that the road through 4-49 to the east leads into 4-21 and thence north into 4-20, so is service to 4-48 really that necessary? It seems somewhat redundant to me. If its not than send 4-49 back so somebody can add the road to it. I'm sorry I didn't the first time but I was either misunderstanding directions, or just plain stupid.

[blackbird]

I was following the map orders. It seems the orders were not coordinated. I wouldn't mind if the road will be deleted, but I believe the core will decide this.

[blackbird]

Is there a consensus or a solution? I'd like to ask a few otehr questions about my claim and I'd like to see this matter solved. Or else I'm going to leave everything the same as it now is.

[Haplo]

Just don't add a road.

[Nemon]

I concur with Haplo. Anyway, before any release is made outstanding issues will be sorted out... Just finish the rest and claim a new one .

[RelinQ]

Hey there,

This claim is looking great Blackbird.

I just loaded this up and I'm curious about the cell (-9,-20), is that cell one thats still in progress? because there's floating moss everywhere.

Just thought I'd ask.

Cheers.

[blackbird]

I'm almost done with the claim. It's only now the testing fase and if i have a good idea to improve, I'll do it too.

Anyway, I have a question regarding about 2 possible future interiors.
1. this is a big tomb. The previous version of i4-17 had a few of them. It's no common ancestral tomb. Is this allowed or is it too big? Anyway, the interior should be big too.
2. This is the hatch to a basement or cave which is still intact. The basement/cave should have some stored hackle-lo leaves and is meant to create the substances for the hackle-lo pipe. Is this allowed too? BTW is the hackle-lo pipe (almost) as narcotic as the skooma pipe? If yes, the this is going to be a druglab.

[Haplo]

I think hackle-lo is just like tobacco for Tamriel.

Also, we shouldn't reuse the High Fane mesh. If the tomb is going to be big, that's one thing, but it can utilize a Velothi dome or just a regular entrance.

[blackbird]

This claim is finished.

The roads aren't really corresponding anymore with the roads I've drawn, but ends should be the same. The roads should be more interesting. Some roads have are interupted by some rocks or a different ground texture, too make them more confusing and of lesser quality.

Here are the interiors:
-6,-18: bandit cave, attacks travellers through the canyon sometimes and is at war with the bandits from the cave of -7,-19. One of the inhabitatns of the caves could be realted to a faction (like thieves guild or cammona tong)
-8,-18: eggmine
-9,-19: underground cave where hackle-lo is stored and use for hackle-lo pipes. I can't say if the hackle-lo leafs are used direct for the pipe or they have to be treated.
-8,-19: small or medium deadric interior. Use cave pieces combined with deadric elements (as always).
-7,-19: bandit cave, attacks travellers through the caynon/pass and is at war with the bandits from the cave of -6,-18
-6,-19: large ancestral tomb. This tomb belongs to a quite important family. If possible, make it a bit special. Do not add too much loot; it's not an uber ruin.
-5,-19: velothi tower with a necromaner. The necromancer could be not hostile towards the char.
-5,-20: abandoned mine or cave
-7,-20: cave of some wild animals

[blackbird]

It used to be the signpost of a deleted road. You may remove it, if you want to.

[Haplo]

I'll probably delete it so it doesn't confuse people or get reported as an error later on down the road. Thanks!