references to standard objects meant to be unique

Type: 

Bug

Severity: 

Minor

Game version: 

Morrowind

Concerns: 

TR_Preview

Found in Version: 

Status: 

Description: 

I finally managed to write a tes3cmd script to help find risky references to persistents:

these are definitions/use in standard Bethesda masters for reference:

 

, so maybe these are worth investigating:

Persistents defined in MTB referenced by other plugins cells (probably incorrectly as they are meant to be unique)
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "mephalan vales region (38, -9)" references "chimney_smoke_small_velas5" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "oethadapilu" references "sc_hiddenkiller" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "akamora, mals uvela's house" references "misc_clothbolt_02_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "akamora, varen manor" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "hassat-nirram egg mine" references "misc_clothbolt_02_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "hassat-nirram egg mine" references "misc_clothbolt_02_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "salvu manor" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "salvu manor" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "sinramen monastery" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "llothanis, midean's healing shop" references "crate_01_anis seloth" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "firewatch palace, guard captain's quarters" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "tel muthada, upper hall" references "sc_hiddenkiller" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "helnim, helnim hall" references "misc_com_silverware_knife_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "helnim, helnim hall" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "helnim, peladia varousha: armorer" references "misc_com_silverware_spoon_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, guild of fighters" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, imeric geordaine: tailor" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "old ebonheart, ebon tower: valenwood mission" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "clambering moor region (-14, -2)" references "misc_dwrv_weather2" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "verarchen, morthi tenen's house" references "active_chimney_smoke02_ovis1" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "verarchen (-16, -7)" references "active_chimney_smoke02_ovis1" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "verarchen (-16, -7)" references "active_chimney_smoke02_ovis1" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "askareth (-37, 20)" references "ex_de_scaffold_03_boe" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "narsis (7, -50)" references "chargen_plank" Bethesda unique persistent

"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "bodrem, treram varalaryn's house" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "teyn, customs and contraband warehouse" references "misc_dwrv_mug00_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-18" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-18" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-18" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "kartur, guild of mages" references "misc_com_silverware_knife_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "kartur, guild of mages" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-51" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "almas thirr, ordinator barracks" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "almas thirr, [cut] llaynor seryon: healer" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "almas thirr (5, -28)" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "almas thirr, darane navur: trader" references "furn_com_cauldron_unique" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "almas thirr, darane navur: trader" references "furn_com_cauldron_unique" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-61_01" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-71" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "tr_i4-89-hla " references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 16)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 17)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 18)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview.esp" CELL "knocker's neck pass (-17, -14)" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
 

[EDIT] I made a "unique toolkit"

http://abitoftaste.altervista.org/morrowind/index.php?option=downloads&task=info&id=94&Itemid=50&-Unique-Toolkit

to detect and help fixing these, I'm using Mash replacers+save from CS as fix but I think the unique.txt list could be ported to  the java tool Translation.txt if you so prefer

Comments

Worked through most of

Atrayonis's picture

Worked through most of RestExterior. Need to see what can be done about that glacier.

Updated report to 1807

abot's picture

Updated report to 1807

Persistent objects defined in MTB referenced by other plugins cells (probably incorrectly as they are meant to be unique)
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "ebon tower, julianos' tower" references "sc_hiddenkiller" MTB unique persistent BOOK
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "ebon tower, curia: offices east" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "ebon tower, curia: offices east" references "misc_imp_silverware_pitcher_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Mainland.esm" CELL "old ebonheart, sewers: maintenance room" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "almas thirr, ordinator barracks" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "almas thirr, [cut] llaynor seryon: healer" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "almas thirr (5, -28)" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "almas thirr, darane navur: trader" references "furn_com_cauldron_unique" MTB unique persistent STAT
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "almas thirr, darane navur: trader" references "furn_com_cauldron_unique" MTB unique persistent STAT
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-61_01" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-65" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-71" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-89-hla " references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 16)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" MTB unique persistent STAT
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 17)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" MTB unique persistent STAT
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 18)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" MTB unique persistent STAT
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "knocker's neck pass (-17, -14)" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "bodrem, treram varalaryn's house" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "teyn, customs and contraband warehouse" references "misc_dwrv_mug00_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-18" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-18" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-18" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "kartur, guild of mages" references "misc_com_silverware_knife_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "kartur, guild of mages" references "misc_com_silverware_fork_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC
"TR_Preview1807.esp" CELL "tr_i4-51" references "misc_de_pot_redware_04_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC

Mainland ones are already

Rot's picture

Mainland ones are already fixed in the internal thanks to your utility, preview ones are the same as the post

Fixed these in RestExterior:

Arvisrend's picture

Fixed these in RestExterior:

"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 16)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 17)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview1709.esp" CELL "uld vraech region (-37, 18)" references "bm_ex_iceberg_collapsed" Bethesda unique persistent
"TR_Preview.esp" CELL "knocker's neck pass (-17, -14)" references "misc_com_metal_plate_03_uni" MTB unique persistent MISC