Leyawynn Interior Showcase

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A hlaalu tavern, cell name is Hlaalu Tavern Showcase.

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will review this
 

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Clean: No
Northmarker: Yes
Illegal to Sleep: Good
Pathgrid: Yes
Lighting: Good

 

Floaters:

 

- Furn_de_rug_big_08 (in the center of the Inn)
- misc_com_bottle_09 (on the bar counter, needs to look more natural and not so "balanced" on one point, but is floating slightly)
- misc_de_lute_01 (not resting against the bar counter)
- ingred_bread_01 (in redware bowl) (X2)
- misc_com_bottle_10 (in bottle rack, top left)
- furn_de_rug_01 (underneath round cusion next to skooma pipe)
- furn_de_cushion_square_02 (against the wall)
- furn_de_r_wallscreen_01 (X2)
- misc_de_foldedcloth00 (on the table with the black anther claypot) (Bleeding too)
- misc_de_tankard_01 (on the same table, next to the floating cloth)
- misc_com_wood_fork (on the plate next to the scrib pie) (Also bleeding)
- com_sack_03_chpfood5 (bleeding also, into the crate in the storage room)
- crate_brandy (in storage room)
- barrel_01_drinks (on top of large barrel in storage room)
- com_sack_01_chpfood5 (in storage room above other flat sack, floating way too much)
- com_sack_03_chpfood5 (in storage room, against the barrel)

 

Bleeders:

 

- ingred_black_anther_01 (Inside the redware pot)
- ingred_bread_01 (into redware bowl)
- misc_com_broom_01
- misc_com_bottle_10 (in bottle rack, middle left)
- furn_de_p_chair_01 (by table with scrib pie)
- ingred_black_anther_01 (into the clay pot)
- iron warhammer (bleeding into hooks)
- Com_Sack_02_Ingred (in storage room, bleeding way too much into the floor)
- com_basket_01_chpfood (in storage room, bleeding into the floor)
- barrel_01_cheapfood5 (in storage room with sack resting against it, bleeding into the floor)
- furn_de_p_bench_03 (into the floor)
- misc_com_bottle_15 (at the very bottom of the bottle rack, check the back of the rack and you will see it)

 

Other:

 

- misc_de_bowl_redware_01 (on the small shelf behind the bar, should be bled more into the shelf, as it is balancing on a small point and looks unnnatural)
- apparatus_a_spipe_01 (Should this be in a public tavern)?
- Furn_De_Kegstand (I would actually bleed this more into the bar up to where the horizontal wood planks connect below the barrel, it looks better that way imo)
- Recommend adding some more detail to the tables and the bar
- Make the lighting darker so that the dynamic light from the laterns looks more natural
- Add some more variety of Ivy and more of it next to where there is some currently
- I feel like the Bottle rack on the shelf behind the bar are too expensive compared to the rest of the interior. Maybe see if there are poor versions of these instead to match the other furniture

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Implemented the fixes.

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Clean: No (Use TESAME to remove everything except for your interior and pathgrid)
Lighting: Would make it darker some more still, try changing the lighting by decreasing the variables by 20 for each setting

 

floaters:

 

- ingred_scrib_jelly_01 (floating above the plate)
- furn_de_p_chair_01 (upside down chair on the unused table) (X2)
- misc_com_bottle_09 (on the bar, happy to see that it's position has changed, but it is positioned incorrectly the other way. Thinking about it, would there be tipped over bottles on the counter? Seems like something the bartender would clear up)
- ingred_bread_01 (inside the redware bowl on the shelf behind the bar is still floating a bit and bleeding into the loaf behind it)

 

bleeders:

 

- furn_de_p_chair_01 (next to scrib pie is still bleeding. I would just position it normally like the other chairs at this table)
- misc_de_bowl_redware_01 (forgot to mention this the first time, but this bowl with the scrib pie should be raised a bit more, it's bleeding a bit too much)
- furn_de_p_chair_01 (upside down chair on the unused table)
- iron warhammer (bleeding into the bar this time, but better than before)
- Com_Sack_02_Ingred (in the storage room, reset the rotation for all 3 axis on this, it still looks like it's bleeding and looks unnatural due to it's rotation)
- com_sack_01_saltrice_5 (the sack under the other flat sack, this could do with raising it out of the ground a bit, make sure the one on top follow suit as well)
- com_sack_03_saltrice_10 (against the crate, raise it just a little bit)

 

other:

 

- I would still delete the skooma pipe and maybe have a platter with Hackle-Lo pipes and leaves on it instead
- not sure about the dagger in the table, this tends to be something that happens a lot in TR and has a joke assocaited with it iirc
- would move the drum off by the lute to avoid it getting in the way for whoever sits at the table

 

*Note*

 

This is a tavern, but it doesn't have any place to stay for the night. Maybe this could be a one off tavern that doesn't act as a hostle as well as by definition, some taverns have beds for travellers. Just something to think about, as these places are meant to be believable.

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This is what I had in mind for the keg, so that it is easier to reach for the bartender

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Fixed

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Oops forgot about the lighting changes

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Clean: Yes
Lighting: Good

 

Bleeders:
- Furn_De_Kegstand (happy to see this lowered, although should move it back a little, as the legs are visible through the bar counter above the bucket)
- The paper under the scrib pie is floating/bleeding. I would delete it as I can't see this ever getting fixed no matter how much anyone tried.
- crate_brandy (forgot to mention that this is bleeding into the wall behind it. Need to move out more, and have sack follow it too (ctrl + mouse to select multiple objects))
- furn_de_cushion_square_02 (one that is up against the wall, it is bleeding into that wall in the middle, move out a little bit will fix the issue)
- light_de_lamp_01_512 (into the pillar next to the door to the storage room (Also make sure that the door doesn't glitch through any objects when opening and closing on both sides))

 

Floaters:
- furn_de_p_chair_01 (next to scrib pie, floating, and rotation is strange, would recommend resetting the rotation and just rotating on Z-Axis)
- ingred_bread_01 (in the redware bowl on the shelf behind the bar, would recommend deleting the paper in here too as it is hard to make it work in the bowl, make sure other bread isn't floating after removing the paper)
- Scrib pie
 

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Done

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floaters:
- Hackle-Lo Pipe (needs to be tilted to look like it is resting naturally on the surface of the cushion)
- furn_de_cushion_square_02 (against the wall, it was bleeding last review, now it is floating, make sure to check it at all angles)
- furn_de_p_chair_01 (on the table, the chairs that are upside down)
- Bread in the redware bowl behind the bar is still suffering from floating, doesn't seem like these are working for you, maybe replace with something else, or just remove them

 

bleeders:
- Hackle-Lo Leaf (in the cushion, needs to be raised and then tilted slightly to make it not float afterwards)

 

Others:
- I would still put the Hackle-Lo stuff on a platter. Having a smoking pipe on a cushion seems dangerous
- Would lower the Furn_de_rug_big_08 in the middle just a little bit to not have it look like the tables and chairs are bleeding into it
- Remove (or move back more) the crates and sack from the immediate range of opening the storage room door. I can see the door will glitch through the containers without even testing it in-game

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Hope this is the last one

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Could only find 3 issues, which are:

-Shelf behind the bar is floating, quite far away from the wall, and the Kwama Egg in the bowl is standing up straight which looks unrealistic, should be on it's side or removed and just leave the bowl empty.
-Hackle-Lo Pipe should be on it's side.
-One of the upside down chairs are still floating.

You need to get these fixed and be 100% correct, otherwise it might be too many tries of fixing the same thing over again, which isn't good. The chairs on the table and anything that is placed in that bowl behind the bar have been an issue for every review that has happened.Please make sure to finally get theses things fixed for the next upload. 

Here are some pictures showing this:

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Deleted the pipe because i couldnt get it to lay down without floating or bleeding, but the other stuff should be fixed now 

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From Discord:

I reviewed you showcase. Everything is good now.
Just as a little exercise though, just to make sure you are comfortable with grid snap, would you be able to make an interior for me that is 2 floors? Doesn't have to have any detail or furniture in it, just main room, with stairs that wind up to a 2nd room, like the manors in balmora. Your showcase is only one floor and I'm not sure if two floors is still a requirement to get promoted, but I would like to see it. Just the shell of the interior is all. Thanks!
You can upload it to the showcase thread on the website then ping me here.

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2nd floor

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forgot about the door lol
 

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Good stuff. Seems like you know how to make an interior now. I was looking to see how you made the stairs between the 2 levels, and it was done exactly how I was hoping it would. Good job!

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Promoted. Congratulations!