Map 2 - Just for Kicks

Post by **Swiftoak** » Sat Jun 02, 2007 4:25 pm

Yeah, so I was kind of bored last night, so I recreated a new Map 2 ESP containing all the latest versions of all M2's detailing claims, with the exception of #8 which no WIP has been posted yet.

Since this is not an "official" internal beta and that not all the detailing claims are done, I just thought I would post this here for kicks. Do not use for any modding purposes.

Enjoy

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Jun 03, 2007 11:05 am

Well, I've just had a little bit of a play through map 2, and I must say there's some hugely impressive stuff here. My only question is, how do you get the border seams and texture differences between each map's 'border areas' fixed at the time of release?

Also, the area around cells "2-5", whatever that means, have a rather strange look on the mini-map, all being one big block of the same 'height colour'. Is it really that flat, or is there something weird going on?

EDIT: One pre-emptive bug report: I got this error message whilst wandering that prompted a CTD.

"Model Load Error: Meshes\TR_ex_Imp_Wall_Cr_01B.nif cannot load file in Meshes\TR_ex_Imp_Wall_Cr_01B.nif.
Will use the default object Marker_Error.NIF."

I don't know where I found it, but it was pretty nasty.

Finally, Alt'Bosara is a veritable masterpiece.

Post by **Swiftoak** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:06 pm

Oops

That mesh error in Darconis is my fault. See in the earlier version of Map2, the palace was screwed up, so I replaced a few meshes. Don't worry, it will be fixed later. (Or you can go to my Detailing Claim 3 thread and download the missing mesh there, I posted it.)

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Sun Jun 03, 2007 1:29 pm

That's fine.

Well, I've had more of a look around and I must say I am vastly impressed. I thought Map 1 was good, but I clearly hadn't seen even the start of TR's exteriorers' talents.

What is the process this thing will go through in the run up to the public beta? Seeing as I joined TR after the release of the current Map 1 beta, I have no idea how the process works. Could someone outline it to me?

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 2:44 pm

Once the detailing claims are all finished they'll get merged together. I don't think we have to merge interiors because for the most part they've all been merged in the detailing claims. Once we have a finished map2 then we add NPCs and creatures. Then we release a non-quest beta, and it goes through beta testing. Then we start polishing the map (fixing bugs from the beta test) and quest building. Once the quests have been added we release another beta, and that goes through another round of testing. Once everything's been fixed and polished to TR standards it goes out as a final release.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 5:56 pm

... and then we start all over on Map 3.

CleverClothe · Post by **CleverClothe** » Sun Jun 03, 2007 9:32 pm

We start on Map 3 well before that.

kebra · Post by **kebra** » Sat Jun 16, 2007 1:29 am

Sorry to come so late,
I have add the 8.

Well, it's far to be finished, just look the Mephalain mountains on the west.

Lord_Gallant · Post by **Lord_Gallant** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:34 pm

I just wanted to thank Sir Bloodthirsty Crustacean up there for his compliment on Alt'Bosara

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 1:55 pm

so does this mean the Necrom temple dispute was resolved?

Post by **Swiftoak** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:16 pm

No, I think that will be taken care of in the future.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Thu Aug 02, 2007 11:51 pm

Just a couple comments along the lines of my last post:

Two of my interiors are missing from this version of map2.

The Mzankh ruin northeast of Darconis is not part of the file, though the exterior is still there, but modified to the point that it no longer matches my interior. I always made it a point to match my interiors to the exteriors, and took particular care with Mzankh due to the weird shape of the exterior. Now that exterior has changed making all that work kind of pointless. Why? Also, Mzankh was never properly linked (int to ext), but to have it be removed entirely... Well, I assume it's a mistake but even so.

The Sha'jiiv's Tower interior in what used to be called the 'valley of nerevar'. Thankfully the name of the valley has been fixed but the tower is now... gone. It's been replaced by a bland boring typical velothi tower interior which doesn't even match the weird orientation of the exterior (my int did). I'm sorry if I'm being difficult but... You have to admit in my position you'd be a little put off too. Both of these interiors were reviewed and approved and now they're not in the latest version of the map.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Fri Aug 03, 2007 9:15 am

That bland Velothi tower is mine.

I changed the wierd orientation when I had the exterior to detail so it fits properly. I also removed the name of the "Valley of Nerevar". The only reason it (sic: the name) was kept in the first place was because the original exterior modder had a whinge and nobody appears to have been bothered to change it later. As for why your interior wasn't kept for it, I don't know. I suspect the claim was lost during one of the server crashes a while back. Only the claims which were either merged into the maps or stored safely on one of the active modders computers could be saved.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:42 pm

Well the file's still in the finished claims forum.

http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=12043

As is Mzankh

http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=12384

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 2:47 pm

I still have both on my computer as well but... they're dependant on the old oot master files which I kinda accidentally deleted... oops.

Post by **Swiftoak** » Sat Aug 04, 2007 3:11 pm

Aaron, I worked on that, and I apologize greatly.

I recall adding a few towers and a bridge to make it more accessible. I didn't move around the pieces. Also, when the file was given to me, there was no interior linked so I assumed it hadn't been done yet. I'll go take a look and see what I can do.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 4:32 pm

anyone have any screenshots of the claims? i need them for a PR media release.

Post by **Swiftoak** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:59 pm

[url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=18611]Click[/url]

[url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=18440]Click[/url]

Hope that's good enough

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:07 pm

thanks very much, i couldnt rember if there was a thread for this alredy.

i also need some opinion, do you think we should do a PR post with updates on the progres of map2 and 3 on the BSF? PR for MW is not as high priority as it is for OB, but we have a lot of good stuff to show off.

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 8:53 pm

Sure, the people at ESF were really curious of our mod in the little promotion thread.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Wed Aug 15, 2007 9:13 pm

I think it is a bit overdue for an update of Maps 2 and 3. Map 2 is coming along nicely, and Map 3 has Almalexia all but fully linked and finished.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:03 am

N, please wait a bit so I can fix Map 3, a village has gone missing and I am fixing that as I type. Also, about that thing you needed to talk to me about (important), just PM me. I won't be online during your hours until Saturday.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Aug 16, 2007 3:56 pm

i wasent going to do it this very second anyhow, so no problems there. await a PM.

kebra · Post by **kebra** » Tue Aug 21, 2007 5:03 pm

I did a lot of pics of Map2, whenever i will be back home, i will send them (a week).

Jedak · Post by **Jedak** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:15 am

We can add the bit Nomadic just finished.

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Wed Aug 22, 2007 6:13 pm

I recommend Tel Mothrivra

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:28 am

Tel Mothrivra hasn't been detailed completely yet.

You don't want people seeing your baby when it isn't 100%, do you?

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:24 pm

It looks fine from a distance.

There's also that indoril fortress, Ayemar. Marog and Kemel Ze are a must see, and there's lots of fun stuff in the wilderness.

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Sun Sep 02, 2007 10:52 am

I had a little free time and with 4 NPC claims up and the rest of the detailling claims close to completion I thought it would be a good idea to update this. I also added my new maps to it so you can find the way and placed them in the bookstores and traders. To make it a little harder for you I only added them to stores that lie in the region the map is about (as in Darconis only has northwest maps). So southwest and northeast are a little harder to find. Have fun with it!

Post by **Swiftoak** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:30 pm

New Version! This version has 2 claims with NPCs and dialogue. I must warn, the "little secret" topic is messed in this version, but that should be addressed soon.

Again, this is for kicks, so don't use this for modding

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:00 am

Hmmm... where do i find the 'real' merged version? Is your merged version similar?

Post by **Swiftoak** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:27 am

Pretty much yeah. I would post in the official Map 2 Downloads thread, but I thought only Core members could do that. But if you want I can post an official alpha in the Map 2 Download thread.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:59 am

I have no idea what the official version is these days... but talk to haplo or somebody to find out. NPC claims are underway, so there has to be another version somewhere. If there are two versions we don't want to get them confused.. but if there isn't, then we might as well use yours.

Post by **Swiftoak** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:15 am

The latest "official" alpha was version 0.22. It's the really old version. Even the detailing claims aren't there. If I was to post a new official alpha, that would be nice.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:46 am

The one listed is at the moment the latest 'official' map. The reason why it's so old is because first we were going to wait until all the detailing claims were complete to merge them and update, however then it would have been cutting them up again (with someone new doing it, too) for the NPCs and Dialogue to be done, so we decided to not take any steps backwards and simply wait. As soon as the Map 2 Detailing Claims (note: not NPC claims) are all finished, I will merge the latest claim .esps of each claim and upload that as the (WIP) latest Map 2, and once all Map 2 NPC claims are finished, I'll simply merge them all and replace the existing Map 2 with that product.

After that there's one thing I know of that needs fixing to make it roughly playable (have to fix the CTD error in the Alehouse in Darconis)

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:52 am

Ah. Thanks for the update.