i3-470-Ind

Post by **Haplo** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:09 pm

Claim type: Interior
Claim ID: TR_i3-470-Ind (#1563)
Faction: Indoril
Parent claim: TR_3-9-Ind (#113)
Claimed by: Katze
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: 1:(3905, -2513):0
Files: TR_i3-470-Ind_Cathartis_1.esp; TR_i3-470-Ind_Thrignar Fraxix_2.esp

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Bisandryon - Large Stronghold. Several entrances all across the mountain side.

This has been returned for general smallening and fixage. Check the last post for details.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:31 pm

Unlocking, Have fun.

Jedak · Post by **Jedak** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:34 am

I REALLY want to claim and haplo said my interiorship password is within reach if I fix something that doesn't need to be fixed...

Its just that strongholds are really rare

...

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 2:10 am

This one is EXTREMELY large though. I will take a look at your showcase now, but I was really hoping this would go to a more experienced modder. I guess if your showcase is ok I would have no right to keep this from you though.

Jedak · Post by **Jedak** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 9:49 am

Well I thought you'd say that

Its alright, I can wait for the next one -- its just that this is the only one in map 3.

I'll claim something else

theviking · Post by **theviking** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 11:46 am

Jedak, it's not the only one. I spotted another small stronghold ruin in map3.

Jedak · Post by **Jedak** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 12:57 pm

Then I'll wait for it to come up

I had a look at it in the cs and it is BIG.

I've claimed something else, so don't worry (ancestoral tomb).

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:50 am

An 8 level, giganto stronghold.

From bottom to top:

Halls 1 - 3 are for military: armory, forge, dorms, mess halls, prison,etc.

Hall 4 was for lower class citizens: common areas, real run down and maybe collapsing already.

Hall 5 - 6 for middle class citizens: common areas, nicer than the poor part

Hall 7-8, plus extras: home of a Chimer leader.

Extras: Propylon Chamber will be made like Kogoruhn's, it'll be a shrine with ash pits. The two domes atop the structure will be for a sorcerer and a private study.

Secret Areas: 2 secret areas: 1 tomb of Chimer leader, 1 vault. I haven't figured out how they'll be kept secret, but I'll figure out a way.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Oct 07, 2007 4:26 pm

Granting, Happy modding.

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 4:25 am

Sorry all, but can someone revoke this one. I've been trying to work on this one, but I have no inspiration for this stronghold. I thought I did but no.

For the person who comes after me maybe some of my ideas can help you:

I imagined that the keep atop the mountain was controlled by House Indoril still but the lower halls were completely infested with either daedra or goblins and the gate was sealed. There was gonna be a false wall which lead into the chief's chambers and thus the rest of the interiors. And somewhere near the bottom was gonna be where the original inhabitants were going to expend the fortress. Oh and that this interior would have a wonderful, famous forge and a semi-famous smith.

Sorry. It was too big for me and not in a good way.

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:08 am

Revoked by request

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Sat Oct 20, 2007 9:22 pm

Alright, I have decided to claim this and have a bash at it. It's pretty big but I like what Hemitheon has done so far.

Hemi: If you're still around, I might need to discuss a few things with you, I'll be getting in touch over Yahoo or AIM if I have any questions, as long as that's ok with you. :) In the mean time, if you could explain to me what's in the esp already that'd be good. Most cells aren't linked to each other so I don't really know what goes where, though I've worked out parts of it.

I'm going to follow Hemitheon's basic floor plan, that gives me somewhere to start. And I'm probably going to use what work has been done already from the esp, though I may change a few things. I'm expecting this to take a while so I shall be taking it one cell at a time and I'll post updates here as I finish them. I'll need to add a few more cells to what's there already too. Uhm, when I come up with some sort of more detailed plan I'll post it!

:)

I actually have another quesiton though, is this supposed to be a working stronghold? Yes? I'm assuming so. :P

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 4:32 am

granting. These filler interiors have vague descriptions so as long as it is within logic then what you do should be fine.

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 7:24 am

If you need any help just IM me, Erashil, on AIM. The study is that separate building on the roof. The dome is of course the dome. The shrine is the propylon chamber, The council room is that one extra level underneath the dome. Hall 1 is where I realized the int. was way too big for my to handle. But it was intended to be a feast hall with a kitchen just down the hall.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Dec 05, 2007 4:25 pm

any updates? I know this is friggin huge but a WiP and a post would be nice.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:49 pm

Right sorry ok, I'm sorry to say I've just started BUT I am actually getting into working on it now so it'll get done now. I plan get a cell done a day for a while if I can, some of them are pretty huge though. I have a while to dedicate to this now though so it's all good. I shall post as frequently as I can from now on, sorry for the delay.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Sat Jan 05, 2008 10:25 pm

Ok, so yesturday I decided on a re-arrangement of the halls. This is the current plan:

Hall 1: Feast Halls and Kitchen

Hall 2: Armory and Forge

Hall 3: Military Quarters

Hall 4: Middle Class

Hall 5: Middle Class

Hall 6: Lower Class

Hall 7: Chimer Leader's Home and High Class Guest Rooms

Hall 8: Prison and Storage

I've drawn up a few floor plans (Halls 1-3 so far) I'm using the original work that's already there so Hall 1 is done for Arcitecture and most of the extras are done too. I'm going to start off building Halls 2 and 3 today and then hopefully get them furnished tomorrow or the day after. Then I'll move downwards through the stronghold and finally do the finishing touches on the stuff at the top that hasn't been done.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Feb 20, 2008 7:00 pm

nice plans, any new updates? I would rather not revoke something this large, but if you don't post in a week I will have to.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:45 pm

you know, not only did you get an extra month and a half, but I think I even told you on IRC at one point that you should post here.

REVOKED

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:54 pm

Big stronghold with a lot of entrances? Sounds like a challenge. At the end of this week I'll get a little well-deserved location and I want to mod for real again.

Oh yeah, may I rename it something else? I can keep using bis'andryon as a working name, but that's one of the names I nominated for dedefecation.

Also, I'd like to pretend this fortress is the place known as the Black Gate in Imperial. People who have played Arena may remember as the antepenultimate dungeon, which contained the artefact called the Hammer of Gharen.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:13 pm

Large dungeon in lore? Artifact at the end? Granting happy modding!

As for the artifact at the end, I think you need to talk to haplo/aro about that as it would probably require a new model.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:33 pm

I'm not planning on putting the artifact at the end. Because it has already been recovered by the Eternal Champion, and if that artifact is anywhere now it's in the Old Ebonheart palace.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:37 pm

oh, right duh. We do have some artifacts that need placing though IIRC... I dunno probably about time we figured out where on the early maps to put phat lewt anyway as IIRC we seem to be lacking it.

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 8:54 pm

Please don't use another artifact mesh/icon for this artifact. I almost had a heart attack when I saw Auriel's bow reused in MAp1.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Apr 08, 2008 10:23 pm

Ich werde jedenfalls dieses Artefakt nicht benutzen.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Wed Apr 16, 2008 8:29 pm

No real update yet, but I've had time to see what Hem did in the existing levels and begin to toy with floorplans for the next levels. Nothing worth uploading yet, though, still in the "concept" stage.

Update: More toying around and concepting. Trying to choose whether the mezzanine thingy I've built somewhere is cool or completely retarded, leaning towards retarded.

Re-Update 17th of May: yeah, it was retarded. I'm working on the kitchen/mess hall level.

Plan is probably going to be like this:
Overbuildings: Council Hall, Dome and Shrine (made by Hem)
Top-Most Level (corresponding to ex_stronghold pieces): Keep (made by Hem) Features a large, Church-like conference room.
1st Below (corresponding to ex_stronghold_pylon pieces): Mess Hall level.
2nd Below (completely underground except for the little bit sticking out to the north, with an ex_stronghold_enter00 and a ex_stronghold_fort02): barracks and lodging level
3rd Below (also underground except for the little bit sticking out to the west, with ex_stronghold_fort02 and ex_strong_roofstack00): armory, training room, services.
4th Below (entirely underground): forge, misc. supply rooms, water wells.
5th Below (entirely underground): abandoned level, mostly collapsed, forgotten secret passage leading below.
6th Below (entirely underground): abandoned and forgotten level, a dungeon-like place in disarray (intended for some weak undeads like ghosts and skeletons).
7th Below (entirely underground): mix of stronghold/cave set, intended to be populated by goblins.
8th Below (entirely underground): more of the goblin dungeons, but in a worse state, more collapsed stuff.
9th Below (entirely underground): Forgotten Halls, partly submerged.
10th Below (entirely underground): Forgotten Halls, treasure room (where the Eternal Champion once went, so it'll be mostly empty).

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri May 23, 2008 4:01 am

Sounds like a good plan, although a bit large even for this. Would it cause any major disruption in your plans if I said you should cut out levels 8 and 9?

Also, in the future make a post when you update your claim.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Fri May 23, 2008 8:13 am

And if I cut 8 but I keep 9?

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat May 24, 2008 6:19 am

I guess that would still be ok

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jul 01, 2008 1:09 am

Gezzzy poo updates?

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:37 pm

Not a lot of updates, I haven't had much time these days (what with helping my parents renovate their house). I'll get back to work on this ASAP, but first I have to finish i2-66. It's practically finished, it's just a question of cluttering up shelves; something which bores me to death, though so I procrastinated quite a bit.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:48 pm

It has been another month, any updates?

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sun Aug 10, 2008 11:16 am

I've started working again on it. Progress has been a bit slow, though.

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:35 pm

I was perusing the TIL and thought. Why not use the Ebony Blade as the artifact for this dungeon?

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:38 pm

Gez wrote:I'm not planning on putting the artifact at the end. Because it has already been recovered by the Eternal Champion, and if that artifact is anywhere now it's in the Old Ebonheart palace.

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:12 pm

This is NOT Black Gate. Our Head of Lore doesn't want Black Gate in TR-Morrowind. I personally wanted Rilt Pass to become Black Gate but Sload poopooed the idea. No Black Gate. This is plain, old fashioned, always-been-there Bis'Andryon.

Bloodthirsty Crustacean · Thu Sep 04, 2008 5:17 pm

Guh, multi-thread logic makes my head spin.

Anyway, this place don't need an artifact then, if it's just any old stronghold (if an epic one at that).

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Sat Sep 06, 2008 6:26 am

Worked a bit more on the dungeons part. I've tried to get some scripted events so for now my workfile isn't in a very usable shape.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 3:44 am

any updates? been a month.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Wed Oct 08, 2008 6:04 am

Yeah, it's moving forward slowly but surely.