FLESH's Showcase

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Sat Apr 19, 2008 11:34 pm

I believe so, but you'll have to double check. It's been over a year since I did anything with speedtree.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 2:47 pm

Hey there Flesh, very nice work on those trees. Glad you decided to keep moding after all this time.

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:22 pm

Thanks El Scumbago

And thanks for being so patient with me when I was modding interiors for TES3

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:13 pm

No problem mate.

Apparently, modelling stuff is much more like you.

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:23 pm

Never let me near Blender or Max, 5 kittens died the last time

Progress report: I'm toying around with seeding, trying to make it work well with the CS. Otherwise the way I see it the tree is pretty much done.

Gez · Post by **Gez** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 5:58 pm

FLESH wrote:Never let me near Blender or Max, 5 kittens died the last time

It's that masturbatory to you?

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:11 pm

Much worse than that, as you can see a whole FIVE kittens died

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:02 am

If you're happy with the tree could you please upload the .spt file? I'd like to take a look. Speaking from the art side of the project, I can say that we would appreciate your help in developing SpeedTrees for Hammerfell and Quagmire. If you post the file then we can keep this ball rolling

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:43 pm

Oh you just want the .spt file? Then no problem

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:43 pm

Meh, I should get myself a copy of speedtree... Sorry for sidenoting here, keep up the good work

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:04 am

Member Promoted for SpeedTree creation (modeling? not sure what specific category it would fall under)

Congratulations

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:07 pm

Thank you

So Morden have you had a look at the tree?

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:01 pm

Yup. I downloaded it and recommended you for promotion.

I just haven't had time to get back to this thread. Its a nice looking tree. The only further improvements i can see include are tightening up the second level branch starting angles and slightly lower the trunk disturbance to avoid the more extreme variations. Always test your tree by clicking randomize and hitting the Compute button about 10 times. I'll upload my tweaked version in a couple hours when I have time.

Welcome back to the project FLESH

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:35 pm

Thanks Morden

A question, did you test it out with SpeedTree V3 or 4?

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:01 pm

gradz

please take a look at claims 11-13 and 11-7 in the Objects: Unclaimed forum, those are both trees. traditionally feel free to browse the concept art section, especially the Quagmire thread

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:19 pm

I'm using version 3.01... in addition to tweaking the 2nd level branch start angle, I've also reduced the leave frequency from 900 to 650, and the first level branch generation down to 15. The tree still looks the same, I've just reduced the triangle count. On the busiest random tree, triangles will max out around 9,600.. whereas they reached up to 14,500 previously.

Take a look Flesh and see if you like the changes. Whenever you're ready we could probably make a claim thread for this tree of yours. Further progress, such as texturing, would take place in that thread.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:31 pm

Also take a look at the Helkori plains flora Concept art thread, because I'm planning to put up claims with many concepts from there(Look at what Elfane made for us) anyway

Ask me for a new claim if you find something interesting that isn't claimable.

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:07 pm

Will do Morden.

Theres always one problem I've had with SpeedTree, branch placement, seeing what you did there I'm sure it can be overcome.

Aro: I was actually looking at a tree in there. Will get back to you on that

And this can be made into a claim.

aro101 · Post by **aro101** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 12:13 am

FLESH wrote:And this can be made into a claim.

Allrighty. I'm gonna make a claim for this in a second

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 5:22 pm

Thanks Aro, I've posted in it. Now what happens here?

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Fri Apr 25, 2008 8:05 pm

the showcase you mean? since youve been promoted its served its cause. it will be left open in case you want to apply for promotion in another area or if you want to show us new work for the fun of it.

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Sat May 10, 2008 1:36 pm

Ok, going on from the last post I thought I might expand my horizons. To the almighty realm of interior modding. I made a small farm house int, with middle class furniture, it's a guy who retired from (insert here) and wanted a quiet life in the country. As this is an interior I didn't add an exterior model to anywhere on the map, if I need to then I have no problem with that. I've set up the pathgrids in the interior and the NPC has an AI schedule, it's a pretty boring one (eat,eat,sleep) but I just wanted to show that I can add both schedules and pathgrids. I don't think there should be many problems, or any in it, but I also don't mind changing anything that anyones finds bugged or just wrong.

Cell name is FLTRShow. I had a problem with the door though, maybe I just didn't find the right one, but it is way too big for the frame.

EDIT: For the record I can add proper dialog but I decided not to because I don't have enough time today to make sure it works. I've also done quests before, but for now it's just an interior showcase.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sat May 10, 2008 2:46 pm

There's not a NorthMarker set. The NorthMarker tells the game which way North is relative to the exterior. If placed incorrectly, the compass will change directions when one enters the cell. It's not that necessary when making an interior for an exterior that doesn't exist, but it's good to get in the habit of doing that anyway.

You have used the Havok button when making this interior. This means that there will be some floating objects, like the carrot in the bowl, and the book and BHC on the table in the corner. Just "F" them down.

The lighting is a bit too bright. In addition, that much fire inside of a thatched roof house would be very hot. Not so much a problem as a logic issue. Perhaps your Imperial stays cold?

The NPC is done pretty well, and the AI is standard. The pathgrid is needlessly complicated, though. You don't have to connect a node to any other nodes that aren't located in the immediate vicinity of it. There's nothing wrong with how you did this, but in a larger interior it makes for some weird AI issues.
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These are all minor issues. You seem to grasp the interior part pretty well. Fix these things up and I'm sure you'll be promoted for interiors.

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Sat May 10, 2008 3:19 pm

Ok here's the updated version.

Fixed the pathgrid, lol sorry I left it like that in the first file.
Less bright + removed one fire.
Deled carrot, BHC is still floating because of irregular shape, will del if necessary.
Added a Northmarker, don't know if I did it right though.
Deleted old ESP, heres the new one.

Nanu · Post by **Nanu** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:33 pm

Your leek stands straight up, and the NorthMarker usually floats somewhere out in the void.

I'm recommending you for interiors, though. You show promise. Don't bother fixing this, it's nothing huge.

bamman62 · Post by **bamman62** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:37 pm

Good job on the trees!

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:42 pm

-everything on the bookshelf is F-ed a bit too much, making it bleed into the bookshelf slightly.

thats the only thing i found besides that which nanu mentioned. ill promote you, pay some attention to it next time.

welcome to the Interior Modders group!

FLESH · Post by **FLESH** » Sat May 10, 2008 4:51 pm

Thank you

The bookshelf happened when I saw it was bleeding into the wall and moved it, but had gridsnap on and it flew away, when I brought it back I didn't notice things were bleeding a little, 'pologies. And yeah, my leek does stand upright, it's like that on my table whenever I'm having it with something (unless I confused the two things because they look similar), I wont do it again though.

And thanks bamman