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Claim: i3-89-Ind Claimed by Praedator
Maps In Group Map 3 at 1:(2753, -3664):0
Accurate map
Local map: Almalexia "Broadway"
Parent: 3-16-Ind
 Status: Approved, 100% Complete
 Faction: House Indoril
 Files:
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TR_i3-89-Ind_Thrignar Fraxix_1.esp 324.5 KB Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:46 am
TR_i3-89-Ind_Praedator_4.esp 331.7 KB Fri Dec 22, 2017 1:46 am
Description
Almalexia (22,-27)

Alma Rula's Palace. Alma Rula is the head of the temple, and is very active in house affairs.

For location see local map.
Last Edited by Aeven
(Sat May 14, 2005 8:16 pm) Post
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Vegor
Developer Emeritus
07 Mar 2004

Location: No

Revoked. Mirabell hasn't been online in over 3 months and hasn't posted in a long time.
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presh
Developer
26 Oct 2004



I would like to claim this.

It seems rather large, and looking over old posts it is mentioned as the Alma Rulas palace. Does it still have this function?

If so I will make it wealthy, valuable stuff in storage etc.

P.S. I know I have an interior claim already, it is finished will submit it tomorrow (can only access TR from work).
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Hermit
Developer Emeritus
17 Oct 2003

Location: The North German plains

It still is Alma Rula's palace. Make it huge and wealthy. Smile

And well guarded. Maybe by Her Hands (clear this with the lore people), so put armour and weapons there accordingly.

Only OoT and game stuff, no NPCs or scriptas, you know the drill.

Granted. Happy modding!
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presh
Developer
26 Oct 2004



OK, this is a huge interior - I spent last night matching up the exterior.

Anyway, here are my plans for this building. Any issues with this let me know please.

Basements - Storage, slave quarters, kitchens, armoury, servant bedrooms.

Ground floor - Reception hall, Hall of Ministration

1st floor - Banquet hall, private reception room, offices.

2nd floor - Private quarters of Alma Rula, guest bedrooms, dining etc.

3rd floor - Library and study.

4th floor - lounge (leads to exterior balconies)

5th floor - gardens

6th floor - private chapel

How does this sound?

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presh
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26 Oct 2004



hermit - when are scripts added to interiors? I want one added that removes a note and replaces it with another.
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presh
Developer
26 Oct 2004



OK, have finished this one. I would be very grateful for some feedback, it is by far the largest interior I have done.

I have two notes in the claim which bleed into one another, I want a script placed on these so only one is ever in place, depending on whether the PC has finished the main quest of Morrowind.

Anyway, let me know how it is.

Cheers.

P.S I added a fireplace to the kitchens in the basement, so I need a chimney to come out of palace from the southernmost corner of the eastern side. Could this be added during detailing please?

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presh
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26 Oct 2004



Here it is again after review fixes. It is TR_i3-89-Ind_presh_2.rar


Cheers

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Lady Nerevar
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08 Jun 2004

Location: New Orleans, LA

aproving. use the file under my name.
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blackbird
Reviewer
01 Mar 2007

Location: Brugge (bruges), Flanders, Belgium

Since when does the priest of the ordinators has a lot of Imperial silverware? I don't know which rules you used (almost) 4 years ago.
BTW is this place public or more private?
I like the idea of the MH benches on teh reception area.
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

It's a monastery-type place so it's sort of private in a monastery sense but the public are welcome to enter and exit as they wish, and commune with the people there.
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06 Dec 2004

Location: Silnim

I'm going to say the same thing I've said in every other thread. You know the rules, fix errors as you find them.
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presh
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26 Oct 2004



I think the idea at the time was to treat this as something like the pope's house - luxurious and flamboyantly rich. The silverware cutlery was used as there is no other de silverware cutlery. I don't remember if there was discussion about this in the past. The bottom floor was public, with a space for delivering sermons etc, while the floors above this were private for the Alma Rula and staff. That was the idea at the time anyway.
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Thrignar Fraxix
Developer Emeritus
06 Dec 2004

Location: Silnim

This needs to be redone, as it stands I don't think it is very good, especially not good enough to be the manor of the Alma Rula.

a bit about the Alma Rula:
The Alma Rula, while not a member of the House Indoril, is often involved in its politics, usually as a mediator between its factions. He is biased in the Indoril's favor when it comes to inter-house relations, but is most interested in a solution which makes a full out house war as unlikely as possible.

So basically, this is a huge indoril manor for the Temple's Leader. Audience chambers on the lowest levels, everything else is largely undefined.

This interior is not as high priority as necrom, but more so than the map 4 claims. Parts of the design may be salvaged, but overall this needs to be redone so it feels like a palace for someone as important as the Alma Rula.
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alex25
Developer
21 Jan 2010

Location: Here and There

Claiming! Large indoril interior with offices and public area downstairs first floor grand dinner table servants and retainers upper 2floor third floor library and misc, the fourth floor garden guest rooms and the Alma Rula 5'th floor. Will also contain a basement and a room with a very small shrine up top (6'th floor. The concept is that this is the official house for all Alma Rula(s)
and an important official place. One question though is he indoril (belongs t the faction)
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Thrignar Fraxix
Developer Emeritus
06 Dec 2004

Location: Silnim

I clearly stated that he is the head of the temple and not a member of house indoril.

I was iffy about granting this to someone with as little experience as you from the start, but asking me if he is a member of the house when I clearly state that he isn't... not granted.

Do a few more simple claims before trying for large ones such as this.
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alex25
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21 Jan 2010

Location: Here and There

Ok, sorry. I didn't ask if he was a current member just that most ordinators are (as i understand it) drawn from house indoril. I mean most temple members have to be recruited from somewhere and even Nerevar was an Indoril.
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Praedator
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10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

I guess I am upto something more difficult now;

I want to stick close to Presh's original plan, with the change that the center of the ground floor and first floor are merged with a great two floor audition hall. de_r furniture, except servants' quarters and kitchen that will be de_p.
Presh used 6 floors, but the exterior could be 7 floors as well, so I want to do 7 floors.
It will be a very rich and well cluttered interior, with refs to the Temple and religion.

I will post an update with floor designations when the outer shell is done.
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Thrignar Fraxix
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06 Dec 2004

Location: Silnim

granting
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

Feel free to take a look at some of the other bigger Almalexia interiors to get a feel for the "style" of the city, and inspiration, as well.
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Praedator
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10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

Thank you Haplo, I try to do that as much as possible. I already have some nice ideas and will post the outer shell with some large statistics (for building the entrance/audience hall) quite soon.
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Praedator
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10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

I have done the outer shell minus basement, and preworked the audition hall
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Praedator
Reviewer
10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

Sorry for triple post, but I have a question on exterior changes.

I would like more windows around the main audition hall, and a few windows removed from other areas, is that possible? And how should I act to accomplish that?
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Thrignar Fraxix
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06 Dec 2004

Location: Silnim

make note as to the precise changes and they can be made on merge.
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Praedator
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10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

I still have to to some cluttering and the final touch, then I will post another update (should be somewhere next week)

Can I include two limeware parts and lets say 5-6 Skillbooks? Three skillbooks will be for HandToHand combat as the Alma Rula is master in it.
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Thrignar Fraxix
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06 Dec 2004

Location: Silnim

no more than 4 skillbooks please. A set of limeware is fine
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Praedator
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10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

Update:

One round of cluttering left (mainly kitchen), then full check, and a write-up on the intended background of the Alma Rula and his Palace. Also another write up on exterior changes (windows)
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Praedator
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10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

All done except a manuscript for the Alma Rula which will be done by Shapeshiftr. Hope to see it finished in a week or so.
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RelinQ
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01 Feb 2008

Location: Between Australia & Germany

I've had a good look at this Interior, and It's seriously epic. I really like this.
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Praedator
Reviewer
10 Sep 2009

Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

I am not going to wait any longer for Shapeshiftr, to include a manuscript. So it can be sent to review.

Haplo Edit: Anything below here that mentions High Ordinators is not to be followed; High Ordinators are reserved for Almalexia and the capitol, Mournhold. Only regular Ordinators may be placed in this interior.

Background:

The Alma Rula is a rather shrewd but welcoming man, and he is fond of greens and blues, only the guest rooms are decorated with reds and yellows. He believes in the purity of mind, spirit and body, and adapted his life-style accordingly. He is very fond on all sorts of food and dishes, and wants everything to be properly clean, issuing the rule that every dish and cutlery should be washed thoroughly after use, and before it is used again. Also physically the Alma Rula is very proper, he takes a hot bath every week, and swims in his pool daily. Also the Alma Rula is the first to build a primitive laundry, so that all those work for him as well as himself wear clean clothes at any given moment. He is strict, but very good for his servants, and provides internship to those who live out the city. People love to work for him, as the living and working conditions are very good. On application for work, the servants are interviewed and handpicked by himself. To prevent cruelty and murder in his palace he takes the weapons of each visitor and stores them until they leave. He is a Master in Hand to Hand combat and Unarmored, but provides no training.

He generally lives on the 2nd floor upwards, but comes down for auditions and discussing Temple affairs with the Great Houses (mainly House Indoril). He loves to read and write, another ‘mainland’ Sermons is in the making. He is very pious, strict and straight forward, has great interest in politics, and uses his power to create stability between the Temple and all Houses, tries to strengthen the Temple’s position, and advertises his Ordinators to be far better guards and (Temple) law enforcers than the Imperials, or House guards for that matter.

The plain Ordinators (like the ones in Vivec) have the general Guard duty throughout the ground floor and 1st floor, except from the South Entrance (1-2 guards) and surrounding the Audition room (2-3), which are guarded by High Ordinators. Also the guards in the entrance foyers at the 2nd floor are High Ordinators (2).


Ground and 1st Floor:

Audience Hall: this is the main body in the Palace, it covers both floors between the South and North Entrance. It is used at least once a week, for teachings to the local people/believers. Regularly also plain Ordinators are taught about the Temple doctrine, and the best of them will be hand picked for becoming High Ordinators.

West Entrance: Main entrance for commoners, the West Wing has a weapon storage facility (at entrance) to store weapons of visitors before they enter the rest of the building. Every weapon is numbered and are returned for a modest fee (1 drake for administration) when visitors are leaving. In this way the Alma Rula hopes that people will stop carrying weapons to their visits of the Palace. The west wing also has a Ordinator barracks (High Ordinators), with four beds for sleeping in shifts. Furthermore there is a Shrine room open to the public with cure shrines of St Nerevar, St Olms, St Llothis and St Delyn. Offerings at these shrines are provided by the Alma Rula, for those who cannot afford them. Although visitors are expected to pay to get a blessing from the shrines itself.

South Entrance: Main gate to the Audition room, only used for large public/Ordinator auditions and then the entrance is guarded by High Ordinators.

East Entrance: Main Entrance for guests of the Alma Rula. East Wing has a guest bedroom, a guest lounge and a Meeting/Dining room for House and public temple affairs.

North Entrance: This is the main entrance for personnel, it is also the only gate where you directly can go to the basement levels. It should be locked from the outside.


2nd and 3rd Floor:

The 2nd floor has the Master bedroom, and a Meeting/Dining room for Temple/Ordinance purposes. Furthermore there are two foyers with High Ordinators at the entrances of this level, which register the visitors and do a last body check for weapons.
The 3rd floor is a personal Prayer room with Shrines to St Nerevar, St Olms, St Llothis and St Delyn.


4th, 5th and 6th Floor:

The 4th Floor is a small lounge with a garden and four exits to the balconies.
The 5th floor is a personal extensive library.
The 6th floor is a bathing room with bath-tub for hot water and a pool for cold water.


Basement I Utilities:
It has a large kitchen, personnel/servants’ bedrooms, and large storage room for food and ingredients. The laundry is at the end of the hall.

Basement II Ordinance:
It has two Ordinator Barracks (large barracks for Plain Ordinators, and smaller one for High Ordinators which serve the offices), Ordinator Offices (War (plain), Watch (plain), Doctrine and Ordination (high), and Inquisition (high)). Furthermore there is a vault with foyer.


Extra Windows:

South Entrance: Ground Floor; West wall 2 windows
East wall 2 windows
First Floor; West wall 2 windows
East wall 2 windows

In the end the south entrances ground and first floor should look the same as the West Entrance.

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