[cire992]

Aright, you asked for it. Will post when I have a layout. Is there anything special sitting in that hill behind the council hall, or may I put that space to use?

[b]EDIT: USE THIS FOR REVIEW.[/b]

[Thrignar Fraxix]

Do what you must to make it awesome. The hill is yours for the using.

[cire992]

Layout's WIP. You enter the building into a foyer where you can enter each tower or go ahead through the big door into the the actual council chamber.

The towers each have access to the basement where there are offices and studies for various bureaucratic peoples and purposes. Currently the main part of the left tower is laid out, it has an office at the top with access to the duke's study. There's also an office at the base of the tower.

The council room is huge and elaborate and carved right into that big rocky hill in the center of Narsis. It's very ornate, spacious and cavernous to make it feel powerful. Daylight seeps in from caverns above the council and below this place ought to be bustling with people. Pics below.

Aside from the Duke and the Head of Hlaalu, who else works here? Are there specific families within the Hlaalu that would have offices? Is the Duke a Dunmer or Imperial? Roughly, how big is the council?

[Thrignar Fraxix]

your screenshots look amazing, but with the latest TR_Data I am getting error messages out the ass. Any idea why?

[RelinQ]

Wow this is very different, but its pretty awesome, Im liking this so far, Nice work.

May I suggest though, in the cell "tr_i6-104, Hlaalu Council Chamber" you might want to place some more lights near the cliff edge up top near the area with trees. The cliff edges are looking a to dark.

Eitherway, like Thrig mentioned you do seem to have alot of Tr_Data errors, infact I thought this might cause errors as soon as I saw those nice screenshots.
Honestly I've never seen the "TR_in_hlaalu_floor" piece of static before and I've played around with pretty much everything at some stage

These pieces mentioned below arent in my TR_Data (or the last two version I've had):

TR_in_hlaalu_floor
Ex_ban_TR_Narsis_hl

They probably need to be readded (and possbily retextured, The floor patten is kinda oddly coloured).

Errors:
Missing object "Ex_ban_TR_Narsis_hl" for reference during cell "tr_i6-104, Foyer" load.
Missing object "Ex_ban_TR_Narsis_hl" for reference during cell "tr_i6-104, Foyer" load.
Missing object "Ex_ban_TR_Narsis_hl" for reference during cell "tr_i6-104, Hlaalu Council Chamber" load.
Missing object "Ex_ban_TR_Narsis_hl" for reference during cell "tr_i6-104, Hlaalu Council Chamber" load.

Eitherway, keep it up, I can't wait to test this out when its finished

[Thrignar Fraxix]

he is using a texture replacer. Also, I forgot to mention, remove the NPCs

[cire992]

Oops, I meant to ask if I could have a floor mesh added to TR-data. All I did was take in_hlaalu_room_center and remove the ceiling.
Anyhow, I need to grab the latest TR_data. I guess I should ask around and figure out where that banner went, though.

@Thrig, the npcs aren't staying, I just use them for reference.

@RQ, I'll add the lights, thanks for the tip.

[Aeven]

That chamber looks amazing! Also, indeed a floor piece without anything else is very useful (same goes for ceilings). The missing banner arises from them being only in the Narsis city file. They're not in TR_Data.

Also, if you could make stone senate-like seats (like the Roman senate?) for the chamber, that'd be quite awesome. I imagine the Hlaalu to be the most (internally) democratic of them all, in terms of discussion and decision making.

[cire992]

^ The seats are an interesting idea, but I could probably improvise that without a new mesh.

If you're taking a look at the plugin, drop these two meshes into your data/meshes folder.

[Sload]

i came

[Katze]

This is seriously epic. I may have to load this up in-game later, just to get the full effect.

EDIT: Just playtested the Hlaalu Council Chamber cell, and I cannot climb the steps at either side of the room, and going underneath those arch/pillar things you made of out doorjams raises my character a few inches off the floor despite the floor remaining flat.

Just thought I'd point it out, might not be something you notice whilst in the CS. Very nice int otherwise

[cire992]

Yeah, the floor mesh I posted still has the collision from in_hlaalu_room_center. I can't figure out how to do stuff in NifSkope, so it hasn't been changed yet. But that is why you were having trouble getting around.

I'm tied up this weekend so... no progress at the moment. Once I get some time to actually sit in front of my computer I'll be able to get this show on the road.

[cire992]

Main part of the second tower is laid out... Duke's office in the first tower is 50% complete.

Eye-candy.

[cire992]

There's a private lounge for the nobles and bureaucrats in the council sub-level. I can't figure out a theme for it, though.
I've gone back and forth on 3 different designs, one has a garden, one has a committee and the third has stripper poles. Check the pics.

[Sload]

I think the garden is probably best. Strippers definitely isn't appropriate here.

I love them all though.

Answering your questions from before:

Anyone you want to can work here really. Some councilors could have offices, just bureaucrats that can be made up later, its supposed to be big. There are probably between 8 and 12 people on the council.

If you want, a vault like the ones in Vivec can be added to the sub-level.

[Aeven]

I really like the lounge personally.

[RelinQ]

Holy shit dude, 889 ref count in the lounge. (may wanna split that )

Eitherway forget the screenshots, i downloaded this to check it out.

Man you have some of the wierdest freaking modding ideas ever but god they're awesome. I love how you combined bits of junk like tables into latern holders, 'tis awesome. I think I might even add a few more plants into my restaurant after seeing this.

And those ferns in the dukes office are awesome, all clustered together. Do want! >.>

Over all I guess it will be better when we get the few more statics in the data, its hard to see errors with missing static errors everywhere
Looks like its going to be one interesting set of interiors.

BTW that sub-level idea is a brilliant idea for a underground system in Narsis! , just BE CAREFULL with those statics, as you probably know exterior Hlaalu walls/canals have a natural clipping error in the meshes.

[Thrignar Fraxix]

[RelinQ]

Ok, point taken. still very interesting interior.

[Kiteflyer61]

An absolutely AWESOME piece of work. I normally don't check out other's interiors but after seeing the screenies I had to see the rest of this one. Do you have any idea how hard it is to type with your jaw on the floor?! You have inspired me to take a new look at every piece in the CS for different ways to use them. Great work!

[cire992]

Vaults are laid out, pretty much everything else has basic furnishings. Extended the sub-level for more offices. Lots of work on the Head of Hlaalu's office, she now has a garden in her office.

[Haplo]

You have some really nice texture replacers/shaders.

[cire992]

I'm rapidly approaching the 700 ref limit in the Council Chamber and it still looks pretty empty. I could be real anal and micromanage how I place things, but I've only got 80 objects left and I don't have hardly any of the misc clutter and shit that goes on shelves and tables. Anyone have any advice or bright ideas?

[Kiteflyer61]

[Haplo]

[cire992]

I think I'm all set (with the council chamber). Finished council at 696 refs.

pic.

[Hemitheon]

freaking gorgeous. Great work! :))

[cire992]

To whoever reviews this be sure to grab tr_in_hlaalu_floor and tr_terrain_grassplane from the TR_data error reporting thread if you haven't already.

Finished and cleaned.

[Thrignar Fraxix]

Approving, fuckdamn shitcunts that was amazing.

Mostly fixed file at the top, merge the one cire will post in a bit that takes care of a few issues I wanted him to handle. (approving this anyway because it didn't need a send back for these minor things, nor does it need any more reviewing after they are done)