Tamriel Rebuilt :: View topic - [FCG] Dres Architectural functional sketches 2

**Sload** · Developer Emeritus 06 Feb 2005

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

sure, any preference? the 3/4 view is definitely the most expressive of what it would actually look like which is why Ive used it but Ive got a side and top view roughed out, although it's a bit harder to see what's going on from that angle...

again, ignore the actual design on the stone lattice, it's just a placeholder. I'd like it to fit with the other ornamentation in the city, as well as be more detailed itself. fluted edges, 3d aspects, basically a nightmare to model Wink

Regarding the face on the pylon, it may just have been an idea, but it's a really good one! it looks imposing if done correctly, very "we're watching you, scum" or "what outlander?". I'd really like to see a face in the final design, but that doesn't mean it has to be JUST the face, you know?

**Katze** · Developer Emeritus 26 Feb 2009 Location: Behind you!

The design on the lattice was what I was curious to see in greater detail- that one looks pretty good, but like you say, it would probably want to fit in with ornamentation on other bits of architecture in the set once those are better defined.

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

Catharsis, yeah the lattice design is in the vein of what I want for a final design, but not quite there.

Do we have a theme for ornamentation to work from yet?

**Nalin** · Developer 31 May 2006

Pylon concept - full upper body ancestor statue rather than just a face. summoned guardians flow out from under the ribcage instead of the mouth.

not too sure as to the shape of what it's fixed too, some generic pylon shape I imagine (possibly with an overhang?)

**Sload** · Developer Emeritus 06 Feb 2005

try making it a bit more stylized and also flat against the face of the pylon. The idea is great, but it really just doesn't look right the way you've drawn it.

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

so I took a quick run at Nalin's full torso pylon concept. I did it this way just to show both a front and side view, but I'm not specifically suggesting that there be a body on all sides of each pylon, although it doesn't look bad that way. It could easily be done with the torso on the front and something else on the sides and back.

sorry the image is a little rough

**Adanorcil** · Developer Emeritus 22 Jan 2006

**Nalin** · Developer 31 May 2006

I've already done some further concepts for this - i'll scan them in and post them tonight.

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**Nalin** · Developer 31 May 2006

Bumping because I'm impatient for feedback.

**Aeven** · Lead Developer 17 Aug 2008 Location: Groningen

My personal preference is for #2, because the others look like lowbrows Razz

**Yeti** · Lead Developer 15 Feb 2009 Location: Minnesota: The Land of 11,842 Lakes

I like number 1 the best. The head cloth gives it a neat look. However, the head cloth on number 3 looks too elaborate and doesn't fit with the rest of the figure.

nice job on these Nalin 8)

**Jule** · Reviewer 01 May 2007 Location: Wilderness

Yeah, I prefer number 1 too. Good job man

**Kiteflyer61** · Developer 24 Jul 2009 Location: Ocean Grove, NJ

I'd have to vote #2. #3 is too ornate.

**Shapeshiftr**

If I were to have to choose, I'd say #1, although nothing says we can't have two different designs of pylons Wink

**Haplo** · Lead Developer 30 Aug 2003 Location: Celibacy

I like #2; #1 just seems weird with that head cloth.

**Praedator** · Reviewer 10 Sep 2009 Location: Winschoten, The Netherlands

I believe #2 is the best option

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

I like two as well...although I do really like the idea of some sort of clothing/ornamentation on the figure. I'd really like to see this thread get a kickstart, I'm gonna get back to work on some ideas for this once I get something else sorted out over in the showcase area...

**Sload** · Developer Emeritus 06 Feb 2005

of course you guys choose the option thats the most ridiculously unrealistic

theres an argument to have between 1 and 3, and i dont like any of them, but 2 is just objectively the worst. it is, like the original image (which i want to clarify was absurd) just a dude's body stuck onto a wall.

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

I would agree with Sload, if I thought for a second that any of those were intended to display a final and complete design idea, rather than just a test of a particular part of a larger and ongoing concept in development. Since, however, I doubt that's the case...

You're right, the idea isn't there yet, but it's better that the first submission, and a step in what MAY be the right direction.

Still, I really liked the face idea.

**Nalin** · Developer 31 May 2006

OK, when you said flat against the wall you meant like a relief! well there we go, now we have more to go off. If you don't explain properly what it is you mean then it's going to take alot longer to get there.

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

OK, I deleted the previous post for lack of replies. Instead I'm posting a few WIP ideas in the hopes of some feedback. The same questions still apply:

1) The 1st link to the canton designs shows the outer edge with a high wall, with an archway opening to the bridge. Is this how it's going to be done? I like the idea, but it could go either way and will effect the design.

2) I posted a rough of a strider port a while ago but didn't get a lot of feedback. That's ok, it wasn't a final design by any means, but I've come up with a bunch of different ones using bits of that one among other ideas. Just wondering what folks think about the idea of making it kinda big and bulky like a building? Or would it be preferable to have it more like the traditional stairs with small open platform? As well, I was thinking of having one type that's actually attached to the side of the canton so that it can be reached directly, almost like the gondolas in vivec, is that something that would be useful, or will they be strictly standalone? Thought maybe there could be both kinds?

These are all just quick mock ups to test out ideas, and by no means do I think any of them should be modelled as is. I'm planning to mix and match bits and pieces from some of them as well as other ideas until I come up with something I/TR in general is happy with, or until someone else throws something out here.

If you like/dislike any elements of any of these PLEASE let me know so I can take that into account. Here's the breakdown:

This first one is the closest to a complete concept that I'm happy with. Still needs work though, don't like the roof, and I'd like to use the covered stairways.

Here's a line-up of three more small ones. Parts are ok.

This is three angles of the same concept. It's incomplete but has potential. Some combo of this, the first one, and one from the line-up maybe.

Just threw this in there as an afterthought. It's partially complete re-do of the one I posted last month.

And here's the one from last month again just because.

As well as a couple of canopy patterns.

Lastly, this is a quick sketch for a really simple walkway/footbridge from a few angles. It looks crappy as is, but imagine it re-drawn by Turelio and attached to his canton dseign and you'll see what I'm getting at. The canopy doesn't have to be that pattern, but I like it and it's the best one I've come up with so far. it'd be really simple to model and texture, just make the canopy a solid surface and alpha map the pattern. Modelled in two seperate pieces, end and middle section, it could be really versatile. It'd also be really easy to alter it for a wall-less canton.

RSVP

**Stormy** · Member 04 Apr 2010 Location: WI, USA

I don't know if my opinion has any value, but I really like those key-hole windows. I like all of your stuff to be honest.

If its not used in TR, I would suggest using it in your own mod.

**blackbird** · Reviewer 01 Mar 2007 Location: Brugge (bruges), Flanders, Belgium

I really like your pics Euron, but this is a functional concept art thread. Unless i'm mistaken. If you can make 2d screens, it would be alright (front, side and top).
Note that there are a few other non 2d pics in this thread too.

**Myzel** · Developer Emeritus 07 Aug 2008 Location: The Concept Art Forum

**Aeven** · Lead Developer 17 Aug 2008 Location: Groningen

I really like the details you have added Euron.

I especially like striderport 01 btw.

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

Thanks guys.

Yeah Myzel, the bulk is what I was worried about as well. I'm trying to work out a way to make it still 'station' like, without being to big.

Blackbird, I know. Once I get a design that's final I can and will make proper drafting views, but for now it's easier to get a sense for what it looks like in 3d.

Ok, so three examples, can do. One question, for the covered port, do you prefer the 'drive-through' train station style, or a pull up type? Perhaps I'll just do one of each...

**Nalin** · Developer 31 May 2006

Any progress with the strider stations, Euron?

I still have a few ideas in mind for the pylon but haven't got around to putting them onto paper yet. The armour I'm making right now Is looking quite futuristic almost and the station designs you have done have the same kind of look so I'll be fitting in the plyon concept with that same feel.

**Euron** · Developer 21 Jan 2010 Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada

Sorry, I haven't had much time to work on this. I've been butting my head up against my current interior claim and having some serious modder's block, not to mention some issues IRL. Once I get through this claim I'm gonna put in a couple of days on this, so hopefully not too much longer.

**roerich** · Developer 08 Feb 2010 Location: Sea of Ghosts

Posting here since I can't reply in the actual thread. (http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=310294)

**st.Veloth, The Repenting** · Member 28 Feb 2015 Location: toronto

i've always thought of indoril having that velothi style, and dres having a more primitive/daedric ruin look to it, but hey, if it looks good, great. and, plus for me! i get to see more velothi architecture in-game.

**st.Veloth, The Repenting** · Member 28 Feb 2015 Location: toronto

hey guys, check this out, it's pretty neat

http://www.deviantart.com/art/TES-Tear-building-concepts-02-448384063

http://www.deviantart.com/art/TES-Tear-building-concepts-01-448163831

**st.Veloth, The Repenting** · Member 28 Feb 2015 Location: toronto

a large number of images here are image-shack, and few of us can see them. why use image-shack in the first place?

**RyanS** · Lead Developer 19 Aug 2013 Location: California

It's no wonder why those pictures cannot be seen anymore. This thread is 5+ years old, and members are sure to have deleted images since then.

**Telvayn** · Member 28 Jan 2014

**TheTanner** · Member 01 May 2015

Okay, the topic is old, but it is important I guess. The designs from DA by Izz-noxfox, proposed by St. Veloth, do look kind of sweet. They might be difficult to model, but they are quite unique. I am just saying that a design like that looks much more original rather than proposed earlier brown houses, which are in many ways similar to Velothian, Hlaalu and even Indoril styles.

I understand that there are not that many modellers who could create a completely unique tile set for the project, yet if it was possible, it would be very sweet. May be slightly different from these ones, but something unique. Because all other houses are rather distinct from each other.

Dres, at least as I understand the House, is rather twisted, its architecture should show it as well. Maybe not as twisted as Telvanni, but still. The pillar design looks really cool and unique. I would also argue that no matter what design is chosen, the color should be something else rather than brown, because of Hlaalu, Redoran and Velothi already using brown. Changing the color should not be that difficult.

Here is another picture from DA for house Dres in insectoid kind of style, also looks really good - http://fav.me/d8hi9d0

**Gnomey** · Lead Developer 19 May 2006 Location: In your garden.

I like the Dres architecture images posted above a lot, though I personally would have preferred them without the 'shroom aesthetic, as to me it looks out of place.
As far as the current planned set is concerned, at this point I'm having trouble forming a proper image of it, as almost all of the old image links appear to be broken. Unless somebody has managed to salvage them, we may have to redesign the set anyway at this point. My impression of the old concepts was that it was a little drab and derivative, and I don't think I was ever quite satisfied with the colour scheme. That being said, I think for our purposes it's probably worth sticking to, and -- again, assuming the concepts actually resurface -- that we'll probably get better results from expanding and refining the set as opposed to designing a new one. In particular, I think further influences, mainly Dunmer stronghold architecture and organic bug structures, should be drawn on to make the set more unique, alien and backwards.

**sasquatch2o** · Developer 15 Jul 2014

Mwgek had some awesome dries models made back in o'12. I don't know why they were never used, but made a little wider with some bridge peices and modular second story pieces they would be luvly! Some nice looking animated lanterns and glyphs were made as well. I'd like to see those used or recreated asap.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZJKFelINFFA

If those aren't suitable, why? What are the local building materials. The makeup of the soil and rock availability of trees should be considered. How are the structures used and how do economic and political and kinship systems influence their design and layout. Imo the ones by mwgek would work well. As far as I know they are already made and textured. Let's use 'm.

**Rats** · Lead Developer 03 Jul 2012

I was wondering the same thing as sasquatch. Where are the models made by mwgek?

The DA concept art linked by st veloth is really appealing, though, and having a symbiotic architecture style mixing the brutalistic stone buildings we supposedly currently have and the dead insect-like structures would be quite interesting.

**Yeti** · Lead Developer 15 Feb 2009 Location: Minnesota: The Land of 11,842 Lakes

Dres exterior set claim.