i3-17-Ind
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i3-17-Ind
Claim type: Interior
Claim ID: TR_i3-17-Ind (#508)
Faction: Indoril
Parent claim: TR_3-45-Ind (#1235)
Claimed by: Parted User
Status: Not Available (Progress: 100%)
Location: 1:(3180, -3645):0
Files: TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_1.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_2.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_3.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_4.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_Vegor_1.rar
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Almalexia 22,-30 Guard Post
Exterior in http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=21206&start=360
#5 http://i.imgur.com/2SLNh.jpg
Claim ID: TR_i3-17-Ind (#508)
Faction: Indoril
Parent claim: TR_3-45-Ind (#1235)
Claimed by: Parted User
Status: Not Available (Progress: 100%)
Location: 1:(3180, -3645):0
Files: TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_1.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_2.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_3.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_6plus_4.esp; TR_i3-17-Ind_Vegor_1.rar
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Almalexia 22,-30 Guard Post
Exterior in http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=21206&start=360
#5 http://i.imgur.com/2SLNh.jpg
I was checking out this shell for i3-16-Ind and noticed some tileset issues: the way the two stairs connect on the second floor creates a gap in the ceiling. The same problem happens with the cap next to the entrance on the ground floor. It's a bit of a problem, since it messes with the layout of the second floor and the window placement, I'm afraid. A pity, since I really like the way it looks right now.
We do have an alternate TR_ set of stairs to combat this problem, I believe. Or rather, I know there is a work-around for this with the MH tileset, but you might have to use some different vanilla tiles alongside some custom TR_ tiles.
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[06/19/2012 04:15AM] +Cat table stabbing is apparently a really popular sport in morrowind
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[06/19/2012 04:15AM] +Cat table stabbing is apparently a really popular sport in morrowind
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I know of the custom TR set and I have been experimenting with them, but I don't see how this can easily be fixed using these. Do you know of any interiors where this fix is applied?
EDIT: Here's a possible way to deal with this using a MH wall and column. There's still a little clipping on the upper part of the lower stairs, though. A tapestry might hide it.
Note: I am working on a claim that is identical to this one (similar to the two watchtowers in Balmora) and I am trying to keep the two interiors relatively similar. I don't normally go around telling people how to build their own claims, mind.
EDIT: Here's a possible way to deal with this using a MH wall and column. There's still a little clipping on the upper part of the lower stairs, though. A tapestry might hide it.
Note: I am working on a claim that is identical to this one (similar to the two watchtowers in Balmora) and I am trying to keep the two interiors relatively similar. I don't normally go around telling people how to build their own claims, mind.
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I'm not sure what the issue is with that picture. If you are thinking that the problem is the gap between the wall of the center tile piece and the 2nd level "floor" of the stairs, it's not. It just looks like it from that angle. Luckily for us (and it was planned this way by the modeler), that angle is never viewable by the player. If you reorient your camera to within the first floor, you'll see the asdf.jpg view, and from the second floor, you'll see the asdf2.jpg view.
Is that what you're talking about? If it's still the vertical gap between the wall and the column you're talking about, you can try placing an in_MH_int_column_01 over the one that is part of the tile piece. You may have to make it larger by 0.01 or something to make sure it completely covers the other column.
As for the cap problem, you can use a different mesh than in_MH_int_entrance_01. Since we have an solid wall in_MH_doorjamb_01 to use, nearly any tile piece can work as an entrance in the MH set. I don't know if we have a mesh setup that can work with the cap there, though, since the only cap mesh in the MH set has curved walls at the top. You may have to replace the cap with just a flat wall to the right of the entrance, or make it a full square tile. Interior modders often do that and then make it a storage area or room, sometimes with a doorjamb.
Is that what you're talking about? If it's still the vertical gap between the wall and the column you're talking about, you can try placing an in_MH_int_column_01 over the one that is part of the tile piece. You may have to make it larger by 0.01 or something to make sure it completely covers the other column.
As for the cap problem, you can use a different mesh than in_MH_int_entrance_01. Since we have an solid wall in_MH_doorjamb_01 to use, nearly any tile piece can work as an entrance in the MH set. I don't know if we have a mesh setup that can work with the cap there, though, since the only cap mesh in the MH set has curved walls at the top. You may have to replace the cap with just a flat wall to the right of the entrance, or make it a full square tile. Interior modders often do that and then make it a storage area or room, sometimes with a doorjamb.
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[06/19/2012 04:15AM] +Cat table stabbing is apparently a really popular sport in morrowind
[August 29, 2014 04:05PM] <+Katze> I am writing an IRC bot! :O
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[06/19/2012 04:15AM] +Cat table stabbing is apparently a really popular sport in morrowind
[August 29, 2014 04:05PM] <+Katze> I am writing an IRC bot! :O
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No, no, the picture is a proposed fix. The problem is not the floor, but the ceiling at the point where the two stairs meet: there's a gap between the curved ceiling of the bottom stairs and the straight ceiling of the upper stairs (see picture). The limited floorspace makes changing the placement of the stairs rather difficult, since it would mess up the windows on the upper floor (kind of a big deal for a watchtower).
The problem with the cap next to the entrance is not really an issue, easily fixed by replacing it with a normal room corner.
But, as I said, it is really up to 6plus to decide how he wants to do this. I merely wanted to point it out and save him a headache later on.
The problem with the cap next to the entrance is not really an issue, easily fixed by replacing it with a normal room corner.
But, as I said, it is really up to 6plus to decide how he wants to do this. I merely wanted to point it out and save him a headache later on.
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TESAME: Clean
Fits exterior: Yes
Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No
Review:
Some floaters, and bleeders,
Fixed.
Limeware, 'twas used,
then nixed.
Comments Not bad, this. Just raised the lightning settings a tad bit. A bit too tidy for my taste; then again, this is an Indoril guard post and discipline and tidiness is to be expected. What itches me is the staircase to the top floor; I'd prefer a trapdoor, but I can live with the current arrangement.
Rating Sweet
Fits exterior: Yes
Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No
Review:
Some floaters, and bleeders,
Fixed.
Limeware, 'twas used,
then nixed.
Comments Not bad, this. Just raised the lightning settings a tad bit. A bit too tidy for my taste; then again, this is an Indoril guard post and discipline and tidiness is to be expected. What itches me is the staircase to the top floor; I'd prefer a trapdoor, but I can live with the current arrangement.
Rating Sweet
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