Clothing for House Dres and Indoril

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sat May 15, 2004 8:53 pm

The other three houses in Morrowind all have their own specific clothing types, usually in their respective colors too. We should consider making or retexturing some new clothing types for Dres and Indoril.

If we do, they would be in the house colors abouts, so White for Indoril and Blue for Dres. The most vibrant colored ones are the Nobles clothing, the expensive ones. The commoners don't always have as much color in their's but they usually have similar styles.

We should atleast have a couple of commoner clothes and 2-3 expensive clothing. All the clothing of the other houses have the letter of that house in the name, so H or HH for Hlaalu, go ahead and check it out.

I don't know, but i think we should really consider doing this, I don't know how hard it would be though. Thanks.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat May 15, 2004 9:08 pm

wow...never thought of thism, I think we should implement it

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sat May 15, 2004 9:12 pm

I will try my hand at making some dres stuff, perhaps even right now. Since it's kind of hard to tell whether their colour is blue or black, I will make ornate blue designs on a black background. As for indoril, expect their stuff to be VERY exquisite and detailed; as the biggest (as in most credible) lore we have on them is that they are foppish.
Also, the concept sketches have some really "interesting" specifications for dres clothing (and armour; which in my opinion should be fixed because the concept isnt too different and in my opinion looks cooler) ; so i'll just be making a robe which can be modified later by an actual modeler (i'll just use NIF texture). I might even try retexturing say the morag tong helm for a dres mask or something.

EDIT: wow; i'm suprising myself here. I've only been working a minute and already this thing is screaming "I'm a thieving vampire conservative jerk (I.E> high up dres member)"!

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sat May 15, 2004 9:22 pm

I also might try making a variation of the dres armour for higher-up members (ornate and more close to the beth concept sketch).

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sat May 15, 2004 9:30 pm

Well I imagine for Dres especially and even Indoril them having some long robes and lots of cloth, which is more traditional Dunmer I think. Indoril Nobles would likely wear something close to what the Temple has, lots of full length robes of whites and light blue with some gold here and there. Dres might have this except maybe not as full length. I don't know about retextured Morag Tong helm, I was thinking a new mesh and I don't think that the higher ups would wear masks anyways, it would be uncomfortable.

It has been decided that Dres is Blue, however it is probably dark and you could add in other colors that go well with it as well. Keep in mind that Nobles like to be noticable and let others know who they are. Commoners just wear what works, however in the case of Dunmer they wouldn't mind showing their House colors a little either.

I think the armor we have now is excellent, so I wouldn't bother with that. If you do anything I would only add more design to the cloth on it.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun May 16, 2004 7:56 pm

I've already completed a very nice robe for, say, a councillor and the new head. I am currently working on some more common clothes for dres.
The retextured morag tong helm is basically what the morag tong helm would look like if the goggles were semi-transparent and the helm only covered the face/back of head. It looks very fitting for dres; I designed it for a vampire councillor and the head looks "lumpy" (in a cool creepy way).
As for the robe, it is blue-black with lots of blue gems and stuff; and the dres logo (inlaid with precious stones) adorns the front. The mesh is the original exquisite robe; but the retexture is heavy enough to make it hard to tell.
The reason I say this is I feel too lazy to walk to my PC, take screenshots, throw them on a floppy, walk back to other PC, then upload the screens. I'll probably get screens once I have at least 4 meshes done.

Also, I am going to try my hand at using a trial version of 3DSMAX to make the armour in the dres concept sketch.
So, in other words, I'm going to try to release this as a pack of meshes, as a pose to one item at a time.

Nazz · Post by **Nazz** » Sun May 16, 2004 8:11 pm

If anyone comes up with any Indoril specific clothes I would be more than happy to use them, as long as they are well done.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sun May 16, 2004 9:19 pm

Well I have some ideas in my head for both, but I think they would require someone to make a new mesh for them, or atleast a few of them.

Anyways I think this is important, the clothing types adds as much atmosphere as everything else does and well people will like having new clothing to wear as well.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Mon May 17, 2004 12:00 am

How does this look for a possible Dres Noble?

Munkie · Post by **Munkie** » Mon May 17, 2004 12:07 am

Not quite what I would expect for a noble to wear. I'd say tit would be reserved for lower classes.

Also as Nazz said for himself, I would be happy as well to use the clothing for the Dres as long as they are well done.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Mon May 17, 2004 12:17 am

Hmmm... Yea I could see this as maybe being somewhat below a noble, but not a commoner either I think.

What exactly do you have in mind? I could probably do a better job if I knew exactly what you guys though Dres would wear. I have something else in mind for Indoril but if you have something in mind for them please tell me too, I was thinking a little Templish for them.

Vegor · Post by **Vegor** » Mon May 17, 2004 12:25 am

The picture looks nice, but indeed it's not really noble-like. I would think an extravagant robe with lots of ornaments and gold. With base colour the colour you used in that picture. But that's just a humble suggestion you should consult with Munkie and others on Dres business.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:47 am

Look at the concepts on TIL- the dres PILE their clothes with loose things like rags, amulets, shawls, and plates. That outfit would best be for a middle-class person; not rich but living quite nicely still.

Also, I tried the "helmet-fix" and failed miserably. With MAX6, how do you manipulate vertecies and smooth and do the kind of stuff you do to land in the CS? I haven't got beyond putting together a sphere and pyrmaid at this point.

But still, the retextures are going well. I hope to be able to have screens within the week (My modding will be extremely limited due to exams and stuff this week).

Assassinace · Post by **Assassinace** » Tue May 18, 2004 1:54 am

I think that set of clothing would work well for merchants. Maybe make it expensive clothing for the dres.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Tue May 18, 2004 10:25 pm

Well I am actually really interested in Dres, and clothing can really define a people. I have some ideas, just need to put them on paper and scan it.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue May 18, 2004 10:51 pm

GIMMIE! I've been pulling ideas out of purely the dres concept sketches / my @$$ and could really use more inspiration.
Also, excpect screens soon...

Graahrl · Post by **Graahrl** » Thu May 20, 2004 2:51 pm

I started working on a reskinning of the exquisite robe (big yellow thing) for Indoril nobles yesterday, actually. It's white and light-blue with various plates and ornaments here and there. I'll see if I can get it done during the course of the day.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Thu May 20, 2004 11:18 pm

That wouldn't work, i'm sorry; Ive been retexturing the same robe for a good while with similar ideas; and they would look too similar to be considered for seperate great houses. Actually, in my opinion a retexture of the temple robe (expensive robe 3 I think) would work better for indoril.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Wed May 26, 2004 1:00 am

I just got milkshape 3D (which I have past experience in), and am underway with making the new (SEECRIYT!!!!1!1!!1) meshes. However, I does not support NIF- yet I know one of the file formats is supported by max. Can someone tell me what format this is so I can save my work accordingly?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 3:24 pm

I think that picture is good, but I personally think that it should be more dark bluish, like the House Colour really is. Perhaps the pants should be darker, I'm not sure. I'm not really much of an artist, so...

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:06 pm

Hey, sorry for lack of updates. I have all 4 robes done, but it turns out there is no way for me to get files off my computer (I dont have internet on it, so I am writing this on a different PC). You guys are just gonna have to wait... sorry.
However, I might be able to put up some screenshots soon (images could fit on a floppy).

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Mon Jun 14, 2004 11:08 pm

Did you make new meshes or are they just retextured?

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:38 pm

just retextured- I tried out modelling, and can't get past making a sphere

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However, they are EXTENSIVE retextures - I try to eliminate as much of the original design as possible when making the textures. Then again, everything we have in clothing of tamriel right now is also retexture.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Tue Jun 15, 2004 10:41 pm

Well that is why there is a need for completely new clothing. However retextures of clothing is as bad, alot of the clothing already share the same meshes, just make sure it doesn't look like what it once was, and of course still looks good.

I'd like to see some screenshots of the work so far, maybe can give some pointers before you finish.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Fri Jun 18, 2004 11:54 pm

screens, you say? wish granted.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jul 21, 2004 3:38 am

I like that robe the lady in the middle is wearing. They look real nice.

ashlander · Post by **ashlander** » Sat Aug 28, 2004 6:09 am

i like them alot put em up for D/L man

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 3:27 am