4-17-Hla

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Mar 29, 2009 8:48 pm

Excellent; Submitting to Review

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Fri Apr 03, 2009 3:58 pm

Reviewing

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:28 pm

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes

Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No

Review: phew

This was a biggun, lotta detail, confusing terrain. There were some shading errors and floating items around the outdoor tomb features and one of the cliffcamps.

Comments The terrain in this was really well done. The labyrinth-like canyons could be confusing at times and there's a lot of neat stuff hidden away. Great use of cliff features, great incorporation of water too. The way ruins, tombs, cliff dwellings, temples, and little farms are all spread out and hidden in their respective nooks shows a great level of creativity.

Well done

Rating 9.5/10

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:22 pm

I took a look, and I must say it looks excellent! Great work. Epic landscapes like this make Vvardenfell look crap

Theo · Post by **Theo** » Wed Apr 08, 2009 6:56 am

I must say blackbird did a great job detailing this one. Thanks everybody for taking this monster claim to completion within few weeks.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Thu Apr 09, 2009 9:26 pm

I believe there are 2 named cells: St felms. Those cells should be renamed to TR_i4-17-Hla or something, just like the other cells.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 12:56 pm

Which problem causes this claim to be kept in the reviewing section?

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Jun 17, 2009 7:32 pm

I just gotta do a final check of it. I've been busy. I'll try to get through it today.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Jun 27, 2009 2:45 am

Sorry for that long wait, but this is now Approved. Great work blackbird, I only caught a few small problems. Just make sure to check the smoothness of your landscape; at just a few places I found some jagged edges.

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Jul 29, 2009 6:28 pm

This claim has been merged into Map 4.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 10:36 am

I'll claim it again. I'll see what is going to be changed and what not. Some smaller areas could stay, but I'll sure delete some cliffs and anything velothi.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:36 pm

Grant... ed when you provide a picture.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 2:36 pm

cliffs are good though. Also, I wasn't kidding when I said I wanted an image.

Edit: Also, towards the bottom of your image in the middle, I envisioned the roads right next to each other almost, but with a cliff between them so you'd never know there was another road there.

Nemon may have granted this, but you do need to make an image.

Theo · Post by **Theo** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:06 pm

You should probably remove most of the cliffs from the eastern border of 4-20, which create a big abruption and coordinate with its claimer to create another canyons, bridges, mouintains windig paths (maybe an abyss with a lake?) to connect to the monastery in the south and daedric ruin in the north. The same goes for the western border of the thread. The southern one was already finalized by you and is Ok. I kindly please you not to remove any cliffs from the canyons as that would ruin them totally. I would also consider removing the ex-monastery, the dwemer ruin and the hlaalu mine and keep most of the Velothi on the other hand.

The velothi tower on the other hand looks quite nice imo (it is in the official RoRo concept as well

) and the tombs provide an interesting element (but some lore issues may appear). I can imagine such a remote and unfriendly area will not be occupied by Hlaalu, but might have been important in the Velothian era as a burial site. Remote place an adventurer could venture into to loot some treasures.

Happy modding.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 3:08 pm

I think it would be sad if the longest any cliff in this region went was to its claim's border. I also believe we have competent exterior modders.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 4:35 pm

Here is my proposal. I am not sure about the light purple suggestion, but it's woth a try.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:40 pm

Solid enough, this is ready by the evening, right?

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:15 pm

Kill the monastery thing that is denoted on your map with a black dot.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Sun Feb 21, 2010 8:27 am

The black dot will be a hlaalu plantation.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:59 pm

do you have anything planned for the northeast corner of this claim that wouldn't work with cliffs coming from 4-14's direction?

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Sun Mar 07, 2010 10:35 pm

Not really much, although it was on of the few intact cells of the former i4-17-Hla. There is a shack of a small farmer on -5,-16 if you don't mind, but he's not near the eastern (and claim) border.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:00 pm

A small update: The most northern cells are complete. Download file 1 to see the progress.

RelinQ · Post by **RelinQ** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 7:17 am

Hey there Blackbird,

Is there a preposed name for this plantation/area? I've been wondering for a while.

Cheers

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:53 pm

Not yet. I don't think there is a need of a special name.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Wed Mar 31, 2010 10:14 pm

I have updated the claim. The conceptual fase should be ready and I'm going to start with the detailing of the cells.
Use file nr 2.

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Fri Apr 16, 2010 7:38 pm

Any tidings from Roth Roryn?

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Mon Apr 19, 2010 9:41 am

I haven't done much.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Sat May 08, 2010 12:05 am

I have updated the claim, especially for Scamp Softworks.

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Sat May 08, 2010 10:56 am

thank you, blackbird. Got a little problem though. For some reason, your 0.5 cliffs show up as error markers in my CS. I'm very sure I have the latest TR_data version, and the cliffs are marked as used (for 4-17) in my object list as well. But they just don't appear.
I'm not sure if it is an error on my side, perhaps another modder could look at this and tell me if the cliffs appear for him.
However, if I load my claim and yours together, the cliffs in my claim won't show up as well. Pretty strange imo.

Edit: [img]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/3555/blackbirderror.png[/img]

Post by **Haplo** » Sat May 08, 2010 10:07 pm

Okay. What is that teardrop doing in all of your screenshots? The cliff thing is odd. It's like the directory of Meshes/TR/x/ was changed to Meshes/x/ although I know they were in Meshes/TR/x when I added them, since I tested it out myself... I'll upload a new TR_Data.esm to fix that if it is the case.

That's odd, in TR_Data.esm they are still Meshes/TR/x/. I think the 4-17 file modifies their location. Try cleaning out their reference in TESAME and then reloading it; that should fix the problems.

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Sat May 08, 2010 11:13 pm

Haplo wrote:What is that teardrop doing in all of your screenshots?

that's my mouse.

Edit: Cleaning out the reference worked fine btw. Thanks for the help!

Post by **Haplo** » Mon May 10, 2010 3:02 am

Scamp Softworks wrote:
Haplo wrote:What is that teardrop doing in all of your screenshots?
that's my mouse.

Think you could uh... move the mouse out of the picture for future shots, if it's not too much trouble?

Scamp · Post by **Scamp** » Mon May 10, 2010 2:21 pm

Not much trouble at all.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Fri May 28, 2010 6:49 pm

This claim is ready to be reviewed.
There is plenty enough stuff to review.
The latest file is also the smallest one due the cut of 15 cells.

Here are the ints:
ancestral tomb at -6,-15
Shack of a fisher at -8,-15
iron mine at -7,-15
bandit cave at -9,-15
hlaalu manor (with tower) at -7,-16
Hlaalu guard tower (for a few guards) at -7,-16
farmer's home (the most southern) at -7,16
iron miner's home at -7,-16 (the most northwestern)
Farmer's shack at -5,-16
bandit cave at -6,-17
bandit cave at -8,-17 (thieves guild?)

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri May 28, 2010 6:51 pm

to review

Post by **Haplo** » Fri May 28, 2010 10:38 pm

Is 4-48 included with this one? Or is it going to be uploaded to the 4-48 thread?

Tyrion · Post by **Tyrion** » Sat May 29, 2010 3:19 am

Needs to be resubmitted with the following changes:

-textures need to be redone, RR uses WG textures only, with the exception of the GL rock textures

-style mixing, you should not have this, remove any com or imp objects from de settings, unless they're like, redware or something acceptable

-the RR region is characterized by its rockiness, this is not a GL area, it needs less open space

Katze · Post by **Katze** » Sat May 29, 2010 3:43 am

Using the GL rock textures is fine, according to the Region thread. Just try not to use the GL grass textures.

blackbird · Post by **blackbird** » Sat May 29, 2010 8:41 pm

I thought I was allowed to use other then rock GL textures, even GL grass. Haplo said it wouldn't be the end of the world if i used some other GL textures and I believe the Gl textures fit stll better then the suggested GL textures.

BTW where did you find those com items?
BTW is it really that bad that there are some less mountainous areas at the north?

Post by **Haplo** » Sat May 29, 2010 9:10 pm

I think GL grass isn't part of the palette. IIRC, Tyrion found the com and imp silverware etc near houses/a settlement/temple, since it was outside.