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Post by Noirgrim »

This claim requires the claimer to submit a detailed proposal for the city.
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Post by kingfish »

CLAIMING

i don't have a detailed plan for the city yet, i'm not sure if i have to go trough the showcase in order to get OB claim and i yet have to dl OoT and group map, but i'm claiming this anyway... :]
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Post by Lady Nerevar »

you sound like the man for this job, but we would still like to see plans and the like.
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Post by kingfish »

hmmm, it's hard to make plans without released arch. set [architecture is not yet part of OoT, right?], because main layout and landscape features depends mainly on what is possible to build with the set; but i'll try to think something up...
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Post by CleverClothe »

Check the modeling forum. There are pictures of much of the MC and LC house; and city walls. The UC won't be too different as far as scale and shape.
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Post by Haplo »

Granting

I'm sure your plan will be excellent when it is presented.
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Post by kingfish »

thanks haplo, i just returned from holidays and have some spare time, so i'll think something up...
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Post by Lady Nerevar »

month no update (and no log-on...) how goes this?
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Post by Haplo »

I already PMed him. Talk to the head of exteriors first before you ask them about their claims, squirrely girly :-P
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Post by kingfish »

sorry for not posting, i was away -you know, it's summer :D
anyway, i'm currently going trough a few different layouts, figuring out which one works best with the arch-set and terrain. as soon as i choose one, i'll post some pics...
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Post by Lady Nerevar »

it *is* supose to be done in the thread haplo. protocol, psheesh :P and besides, dosent hurt to ask twice, especialy on an important claim like this.

good to hear that there is progres, exited to see what you work out :)
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Revoked. Three months since the user last logged on.
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May I have this dance?
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you sure may :)
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Aro throws a pack of new nifs straight into PoHa!s hands.

I updated the OoT. You can now plan out the streets of the city with sidewalks and build the LC and MC district. The key feature is the half-opened-city nature of this. Smash the big LC into the wall like on Sload's concept, and build that wall and then let me know what else do you need for the part that slices the city into the inner part and the dock part. kthx
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[url=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/PoHaEiFor/Taneth/TanethMap.jpg]A tentative layout for the city.[/url] I'm planning out which is what and how, currently, and making sure it all makes sense.

If you can't tell from that map, the Upper class is in the Northwest, Middle class is in the Northeast, the Lower Class is in the Southeast, and the Fort/Palace/Castle/Keep/whatever is in the Southwest.

It is also in no way at all final; I drew it up without access to the my computer over the weekend. Post any concerns you have. :P
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I assume, the 32 is one of the big ones LCs. I designed two bigasses. I would like to see both of them in Taneth, since they were made almost like exclusive for that city.
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Guilds and stuff will go with the fort/palace?
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Aro wrote:I assume, the 32 is one of the big ones LCs. I designed two bigasses. I would like to see both of them in Taneth, since they were made almost like exclusive for that city.
Erp. Yer, 32 was planned to be one of those buildings who are well endowed in the anal region, as a dock warehouse. I hadn't planned on using both of them, though... I might have a time thinking up what the other could be, actually.
Haplo wrote:Guilds and stuff will go with the fort/palace?
Hadn't planned it that way. They're some of the numbered buildings. I didn't think to mark the guilds as anything special when I marked it.

As a further note, I've come to realize that when I layed out the city in the CS (which I later based this map on), I was cutting the eastern edge off short by a cell. Which only means that more of those several LC buildings that I drew up (I knew from the get-go they wouldn't all fit) have a better chance of making it into the city. Yay for squalor!
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Post by Jedak »

This needs a sload approval for the amount of buildings.
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aro101 wrote:I assume, the 32 is one of the big ones LCs. I designed two bigasses. I would like to see both of them in Taneth, since they were made almost like exclusive for that city.
Say what? I've used them in Rihad!
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Well, if they fit Rihad, that's great. The point is, those ones wouldn't propably be made, if Sload wouldn't let me know about the ideas for Taneth.

Jedak, that's nonsense. Talking about amounts of buildings is lame, let them build those two great cities. The space is already defined with the claim, amounts do not need any kind of approval.
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Jedak wrote:This needs a sload approval for the amount of buildings.
Sload approves of anything PoHa! does.
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Post by Jedak »

Good... I was hoping for that answer :)

Listen, Aro, I wasn't trying to side by anything or try to limit Poha!'s creativity by adding limits, I was just trying to catch Sloads attention.

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Post by aro101 »

And I knew attention wasn't needed, Jedak.

And oblivion is b... Uh, nevermind.
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Jedak wrote:*snip*
you do know sload isn't god, and actually has no power to limit anyone's city building. All compliance with sload is voluntary, though encouraged.
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Thrignar Fraxix wrote:
Jedak wrote:*snip*
you do know sload isn't god
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TF's just jealous cause I got booty and he got squat.

HOEH!!!!

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Post by Gnomey »

The other huge building could be used as a sort of apartment building for the people who have just enough money to stay off the streets.

And according to Sload (unless someone placed false memories in my mind while I was asleep) the MG should hang out in a manor. I'm going to assume that the manor had already existed before the MG but the former owner left for whatever reason. (Was he too traditionalistic, or even *gasp* a Crown? :wink:)
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Post by blackbird »

I thought redguards didn't like magic. The redguard mage in Cheydinhals mages guild says that. I thought they should have a mediem building. Unless the ruler of Taneth does want give the MG a large building.
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Just because they're unpopular doesn't mean they don't have money.
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Post by Lady Nerevar »

Clavilla of taneth is as imperial as you can get. she hates the traditional ("backward") redguard ways and wants to make hammerfell a true imperial province. she therefore suports all kinds of imperial instutitions -- of wich the MG is one. dispelling (hehe, pun) the redguard's fear of magic would certainly be on her agenda.
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And the Redgaurds don't hate all types of magic in equal proportion. They despise illusion, conjuration and necromancy; are more apathetic towards alteration and destruction; and probably view alchemy and restoration in quite a positive light. They just view magic differently to the Imperials.
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Alright, so an idea struck me, and I had to do it, since its so great that I had to do it. :P

So, it occurred to me, that the model department must be getting far too stress with all the requests for new models, fixes, and such, and I thought that I would do my part to help.

At the same time, I also wanted to make Hammerfell more unique and interesting; this is a fantasy game, after all.

Without further ado, I give you this, your first looks at the city of Taneth:

[url=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/PoHaEiFor/ForkedStreet.jpg]Pic 1[/url]
[url=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/PoHaEiFor/HoofAlley.jpg]Pic 2[/url]
[url=http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y171/PoHaEiFor/HornTongueDocks.jpg]Pic 3[/url]

Now, before you start making quick judgments, give it a moment to sink in. THINK about it! By reusing this architecture in Taneth, we'll have a completely original view upon the city. It will make our own models more unique, and put less stress on our meshers at the same time!

Its also got great story implications; for instance, why is it snowy here, but no where else in Goldmoor? Where did they get all the wood for those houses? Was it smuggled in, or something far worse? I've already come up with several explanations, but I wanted to hear what everyone else thought too.
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PoHa! wrote:I've already come up with several explanations, but I wanted to hear what everyone else thought too.
Please tell me there will also be a flying pyramid with Egyptian gods and chessboxing matches.
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its CLEARLY the fault of Cheese, the et-ada-edric god of booze, pie, and ofcourse fermented milk products. chessboxing matches are simply required. i call weat toast.
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I approve. In fact, I think this is how I really saw Taneth this whole time, I just never realized it until PoHa! unlocked it for me.

Beautiful work, as always!
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Well, thanks Sload. Its nice to have your support on this, though I didn't expect anyone to embrace it so wholeheartedly.

Anyways, what are your thoughts on the snow here? Like I said, I have my theories (obviously) but I wanted to hear your input too.
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Well, I think it makes sense if King Bamkanashbonbon (evil cousin of King Chittichibangang) had cursed the people of Taneth because they wouldn't let him kill their babies. I bet there could be a whole quest where you have to summon Frander Hungring's spirit from the dead to help you kill his malevolent cursed Awesome Frost Atronarch (AFA) in a giant dungeon under taneth, which he created from some magic snow he stole from the tongues in Skyrim.

That would be so cool!
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Um could we cut the bullshit? Kay, thanks.
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