Map 2 NPC Claim #8 [arvisrend]
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Here you go IP. Use this file.
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You may want to consider deleting the dialogue and starting over... it might be easier and less messier. Your call, though.
You may want to consider deleting the dialogue and starting over... it might be easier and less messier. Your call, though.
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Impi, for the quests in this one, it would be nice if you could try and tone down (however 'counter-intuitive' it might seem, though it's not unlike a modeller providing low-res textures for us) the unique responses you offer to the player as choices. I only noticed them in your other claim too late to change anything, and then you kinda vanished for a while so I never brought it up.
In any case, it isn't really the Morrowind way to put too many words into the players mouth (especially the low-level s/m stuff you had going on with the slave; or perhaps worse, the Airplane gag). So keep choices to the bare minimum. There are few cases where a 'Continue' isn't all that's needed.
In any case, it isn't really the Morrowind way to put too many words into the players mouth (especially the low-level s/m stuff you had going on with the slave; or perhaps worse, the Airplane gag). So keep choices to the bare minimum. There are few cases where a 'Continue' isn't all that's needed.
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Tomaril Manor needs a bit of exterior work to be less huge and bad. Are you up for doing this IP?
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Hey IP, I can rework the Tomaril ext if you want. Is there another file I should use, or I could just send you the Tomaril cell and you can merge it back in with yours?
edit: actually, I can work off the last file posted, since the interior of Tomaril is getting redone anyway, and I'm only touching that one cell.
some screens of what Tomaril should be:
[img]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9277/tomaril2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2790/tomaril3.jpg[/img]
The manor should be separated into two parts. The bottom tower that you enter from ground level should be one separate cell. This is a three story, or four with a basement, building, and should be able to be done in one cell (unless you want the basement separate or something). The upper portion is reached via the exterior stairs and could be one, two, or even three cells, depending on how you want to split it up. These should just be two standalone structures, one above the other.
Simple, and shouldn't be more than 4-5 cells.
Map for further clarification:
[img]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3674/tomaril.jpg[/img]
edit: actually, I can work off the last file posted, since the interior of Tomaril is getting redone anyway, and I'm only touching that one cell.
some screens of what Tomaril should be:
[img]http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9277/tomaril2.jpg[/img]
[img]http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/2790/tomaril3.jpg[/img]
The manor should be separated into two parts. The bottom tower that you enter from ground level should be one separate cell. This is a three story, or four with a basement, building, and should be able to be done in one cell (unless you want the basement separate or something). The upper portion is reached via the exterior stairs and could be one, two, or even three cells, depending on how you want to split it up. These should just be two standalone structures, one above the other.
Simple, and shouldn't be more than 4-5 cells.
Map for further clarification:
[img]http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/3674/tomaril.jpg[/img]
Last edited by Tyrion on Tue Feb 22, 2011 3:02 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Here's the redone Tomaril Manor cell. It's just the one cell, and should replace the old Tomaril cell, so clean that one out and merge this one back in. An interior claim or two can be made to suit. I posted a map and screens in the previous post.
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"Imagination and memory are but one thing which for diverse considerations have diverse names."
"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
"The layout is awesome, the scale is awesome, the whole city is just awesome!" - Tyrion on Blacklight, circa 2007
"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
"The layout is awesome, the scale is awesome, the whole city is just awesome!" - Tyrion on Blacklight, circa 2007
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I didn't touch the water features as that was not my concern.
That happens plenty of other places as well, realistic water features don't work very well with Morrowind.
Plus I think you may not be seeing the whole feature if you're just looking at that cell.
That happens plenty of other places as well, realistic water features don't work very well with Morrowind.
Plus I think you may not be seeing the whole feature if you're just looking at that cell.
"Imagination and memory are but one thing which for diverse considerations have diverse names."
"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
"The layout is awesome, the scale is awesome, the whole city is just awesome!" - Tyrion on Blacklight, circa 2007
"How dare you question the colonnade!" - one of the Glorious Leaders
"Nemon + IKEA = creationism" - some guy
"The layout is awesome, the scale is awesome, the whole city is just awesome!" - Tyrion on Blacklight, circa 2007
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why did you rename this
why do people rename things
keep the file names or gtfo
seriously
why do people rename things
keep the file names or gtfo
seriously
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No, Theo did it ages back (see p.4) to do border matching, and the problem is that it's impossible to re-split claims once dialogue and lots of unique objects (like NPCs) have been introduced. It's a bit of a mess, unfortunately.
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What is currently being done here?
What still needs to be done here?
Is there any way we can get what needs to be done finished faster?
What still needs to be done here?
Is there any way we can get what needs to be done finished faster?
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This claim really only needs some tweaking as far as I'm concerned. There's a lot of NPC stuff done although the vast majority of it is very unique to each NPC as opposed to the usual, more generic structure. I'm not sure if this is a problem or not, it will certainly make this area more interesting for players but it also might stand out in comparison to other parts of the map. I can work on finishing it but I still haven't finished learning NPC dialoguing yet so it's going to take some time. Some quests appear to be done but I don't know questing at all, so that might want looking at by someone else.
Again, this is only tentatively claimed. I'm still looking it over and learning NPC stuff. If anybody else has the urge to work on it, by all means, take it away! This can also be kept in unclaimed as far as I'm concerned.
Again, this is only tentatively claimed. I'm still looking it over and learning NPC stuff. If anybody else has the urge to work on it, by all means, take it away! This can also be kept in unclaimed as far as I'm concerned.
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Massie, if you could think about getting this one to a state where it's at the very least clean and playable to your knowledge (should just be a matter of cleaning out junk rather than adding anything new), then post up that file and I or someone else will hopefully be able to take it from there for the quests and new dialogue. I might have some free time in a month or so where I can take a look at this.
a man builds a city
with Banks and Cathedrals
a man melts the sand so he
can see the world outside
"They destroyed Morrowind? Fiddlesticks! Now we're going to have to rebuild it again!"
with Banks and Cathedrals
a man melts the sand so he
can see the world outside
"They destroyed Morrowind? Fiddlesticks! Now we're going to have to rebuild it again!"
Hey Massalinie, I've talked it over a bit with TF and Haplo, and I wouldn't mind taking this claim - providing you don't want to work on it, of course.
I'm happy to do it as long as someone keeps an eye on the progress and tells me exactly what is what and what I need to do.
I'm happy to do it as long as someone keeps an eye on the progress and tells me exactly what is what and what I need to do.
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Thank you so very much."
Thank you so very much."
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claim ownership transferred.
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Sam, re: advice, I can definitely give you pointers if you care to PM me/post here with any questions. Alternatively, if you post WIPs, I can try and give them a check over.
Generally, check the guides that are floating around the place, and check existing (finished) NPC claims.
Generally, check the guides that are floating around the place, and check existing (finished) NPC claims.
a man builds a city
with Banks and Cathedrals
a man melts the sand so he
can see the world outside
"They destroyed Morrowind? Fiddlesticks! Now we're going to have to rebuild it again!"
with Banks and Cathedrals
a man melts the sand so he
can see the world outside
"They destroyed Morrowind? Fiddlesticks! Now we're going to have to rebuild it again!"
I've looked through it, and all the interiors have NPCs (if they are needed). The bottom right of the map needs a few more creatures but other than that it's pretty well covered - I've avoided creatures on the roads because they're usually annoying.
I'm not sure what's going on here:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/SamBoyd/tomaril.jpg
Any advice on what to do here would be appreciated!
This is hard work because it's killing my computer to move. Derp.
I'm not sure what's going on here:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/SamBoyd/tomaril.jpg
Any advice on what to do here would be appreciated!
This is hard work because it's killing my computer to move. Derp.
"Thank you to the Makers of Rules. To the Breakers of Backs. To the sincere Autocrats. To the false Democrats. To the Builders of Walls. To the Painters of Lines. To those who Tattoo Numbers. To those who point fingers. To those who count their greed. To those who split by colour. To those who smile their lies.
Thank you so very much."
Thank you so very much."
Double click that extra door marker and see what interior door is linking there.
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It's the second floor of 'Tomaril Manor, Retainer Housing' - there's a door but there's not one on the otherside.
I talk to TF about this in chat the other day, and he suggested that there was a new interior made, and perhaps it wasn't merged in?
I talk to TF about this in chat the other day, and he suggested that there was a new interior made, and perhaps it wasn't merged in?
"Thank you to the Makers of Rules. To the Breakers of Backs. To the sincere Autocrats. To the false Democrats. To the Builders of Walls. To the Painters of Lines. To those who Tattoo Numbers. To those who point fingers. To those who count their greed. To those who split by colour. To those who smile their lies.
Thank you so very much."
Thank you so very much."
I've got some good news and bad news. You can decide which is which.
My musical got picked up and is now going to be played on campus. It's a stupid musical but everyone is really excited for it.
It'll be sucking up a lot (and I mean, a lot) of time up until around August.
I will work on this whenever I've got ultra spare time, but it's going to slow down a lot...
Meanwhile, yeah, all NPCs are placed and the creatures are almost finished too - I don't know how to merge interiors into this one since it already has one. But if I finish the creatures and merge it in, should I just upload for someone else to finish?
And thanks for the tip, Aeven!
My musical got picked up and is now going to be played on campus. It's a stupid musical but everyone is really excited for it.
It'll be sucking up a lot (and I mean, a lot) of time up until around August.
I will work on this whenever I've got ultra spare time, but it's going to slow down a lot...
Meanwhile, yeah, all NPCs are placed and the creatures are almost finished too - I don't know how to merge interiors into this one since it already has one. But if I finish the creatures and merge it in, should I just upload for someone else to finish?
And thanks for the tip, Aeven!
"Thank you to the Makers of Rules. To the Breakers of Backs. To the sincere Autocrats. To the false Democrats. To the Builders of Walls. To the Painters of Lines. To those who Tattoo Numbers. To those who point fingers. To those who count their greed. To those who split by colour. To those who smile their lies.
Thank you so very much."
Thank you so very much."
That may be a good idea. Others could also probably merge the interior in for you. Also, good luck with your musical. Break a leg or two.MSam wrote:But if I finish the creatures and merge it in, should I just upload for someone else to finish?
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Maybe I could do some work on this in the meantime? I'm pretty much done with Necrom now but I want to help get SE out as soon as possible.
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Myzel- We never actually see slaves working on Vvardenfell either. They're always just standing there. If you ask me they deserve a good whipping.
Myzel- We never actually see slaves working on Vvardenfell either. They're always just standing there. If you ask me they deserve a good whipping.