Looks like we're in a big need of trees, shrubs and the like for the Helkori region! We need a plenty of designs to give these plains the overall feel and atmosphere desired; a look that automatically exclaims "this his Helkori!".
As Aro has informed me, we have plenty of flowers and blossoms to last us (although it never hurts if you're itching to draw some). What we need is some trees, shrubs, ground cover, you name it. repeating common plants, foresting and shrubbery is always grand.
Eyeball88 wrote:
Helkori Plains
The chewy marshmallow center of Hammerfell, this large grassland will resemble the savannah/serengeti found in movies like The Lion King. It will feature soft rolling hills, a few lush river valleys and more diverse plant and animal life.
Creatures: Hyenas, Giraffes, Elephants, Lions, etc.
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Thankee very much, Aro I was looking around for some new pieces, but I thought I might as well quote Eyeball. For those not in the know, that post was in the admin. forum for, what.. a year or so ago? Quite some time, at least.
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No problem Few more notes on what the modelling department will need first:
-About 6-8 more trees. (Check our current claims for more info.)
-Ground textures (We have already a claim for this, open for suggestions)
-Grass generated with terrain (there is also a claim, open for suggestions)
-Small flora. About 5 more flowers.
-Other terrain objects. Roots, rocks, cliffs, whatever you imagine should be there.
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Rather basic creatures. Is that defitnely whats goign to be in them. I mean, I don't suggest we create new ones, but I certainly suggest that we use others. Plain savannah animals are boring. And althoguh I perosnally have never played remind me of the evil place in EverQuest II.
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No giraffes or elephants. I'm sure about that. A heyna should be fine, since we had wolves in other provinces.
Lions, no. [url=http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x139/aruncio101/TR/CA/manticore1wz7.jpg]This[/url] or some crazy sabertooths, yes.
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i like this one a lot:
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hows this for closer to goldmoor and the mountains:
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thats the Cederberg Mountains, South Africa.
i think is Savannah-ish while still being unique. i also love the multicolored grasses on the topmost picture a lot.
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Sorry LN for rejecting your ideas two times in a row... They look goldmoorish to me (it's about those rocks), I want to see a difference between GM and HK.
One important thing to note though. In Helkori the rocks should be less round than in Goldmoor (that's because it's more away from the sea). In fact, they should be blocky like some of these in the third pic. They should be also bigger and more often form groups. I imagine some spaces without rocks next to a place full of them.
Oh, it seems like I didn't reject as much as I thought I will, yay
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Two more pics from my own collection.
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Forget all the green you see there.
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Sload wrote:I think the big difference should be that Helkori should lack green completely. There should be no green grass, it should all be dry.
I defitnely think this is important also. And anything to seperate itself from Goldmoor is good, it can be easy to amke landcsapes samey without rules of thumb liek this.
An exmaple of a possible texture for the groudn of the Helkori plains. Rey clay that has dried out but been eroded to surround hard geomertic shapes of stone when the very fair rains come.
And an idea for a plan, which isn't very detaield unfortuntely. It is basically a plant which wraps around itself in a vessel shape, and flowers inside.
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ignore the rocks on mine, i was more talking about grass colors and all. agreed about the no-green. rocks have to be present in some since HK borders a lot of mountains and goldmoor. the first and last pics are good for the goldmoor/corten/helkori transition with their rockiness.
i like the vastness of the concept especially pound. the helkori really has that wide, expansive look to it.
a couple of hightmap pictures of the helkori:
http://ladyn.tamriel-rebuilt.org/Hammerfell%20Heightmap/HH5.jpg
http://ladyn.tamriel-rebuilt.org/Hammerfell%20Heightmap/HH7.jpg
http://ladyn.tamriel-rebuilt.org/Hammerfell%20Heightmap/HH8.jpg
http://ladyn.tamriel-rebuilt.org/Hammerfell%20Heightmap/HH16.jpg
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Might want to change the color on that plant, Harke. It looks a bit like kelp.
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I don't think it's only about the color. The whole idea looks like kelp. Except the fruits, which look like nuts.
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How does that look like kelp? Well, actually, I see how it could look like that, but that's only because of the background colour, which is a deep, sea-like blue. Try changing the background colour and then look at it again. I'd simply suggest doubling the amount of leaves in the actual model so that it looks more like a tree. (Or bush...)
Being this small means that it can be turned into a "harvestable" flora. Have you noticed how you don't have traditional fruit trees in Oblivion? There's a reason all the vegetal ingredients are taken from flowers and mushrooms rather than trees. You've got ironwood nuts, but not a single tree to produce them.
I must edit the 0,7 m height. I meant 0,7m without the leaves. So about 1,2 or something like that would be more apropriate.
edit - more plants, rather strange to edit a post with what should be the main post.
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A tree similar to the cherry tree. A full and perfect blossom is a rare thing to see. Could be a quest idea.
The thing to the left is the flower itself.
[img]http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3383/brownflowervz6.jpg[/img]
Did anyone say brown??? This is probably as brown a flower will ever be.
I love you, Elfane Great job, I'm gonna create claims for some of these today.
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Gez wrote:Being this small means that it can be turned into a "harvestable" flora. Have you noticed how you don't have traditional fruit trees in Oblivion? There's a reason all the vegetal ingredients are taken from flowers and mushrooms rather than trees. You've got ironwood nuts, but not a single tree to produce them.
Yes, I noticed it in Morrowind too. Is there any specific reason known why Bethesda should have made it so?
Harke the Apostle wrote:Yes, I noticed it in Morrowind too. Is there any specific reason known why Bethesda should have made it so?
Speedtree files are different beasts than .nif files, which is probably the cause.
Creating a "blank" .nif to detect when the player tries to collect from the tree, and placing it everywhere a tree is placed has been a long running idea I've wanted to do.
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The Miasmata hover over the shallows of Helkori's rivers, hurling themselves at their victims, who then become infected with the [Miasmaton's matrix].
If the prey succumbs to the disease, a new Miasmaton is spawned from the dying victims 's body.
A few more tree ideas and we are done with the flora Great job, Elfane. Focus on trees now please.
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