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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

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Thirr River Valley

River Map:

(Rivers in GREEN must be removed. Rivers in BLUE must be added. Rivers in BLACK already exist and should remain extant.)

Claimant should match this to the latest A2 and A6 files. Also, you'll need to match your western border with the appropriate Map 4 claims.



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02 Feb 2007

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Bit late here, but I'd have thought it should be suitably impressively wide on both sides of the river. Modders' discretion, or do we prefer to have strict boundaries in mind before it's opened for claiming.

Having an updated Dwemer satellite shot would help with decisions.

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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

I would say leave it to the modder's discretion, with the caveat that we need a wide river. Any modder who claims it will be competent anyway. Unless anyone has some objects, I'll be opening this up for claiming probably tomorrow or sometime soon (and any uncertain regions should match what's already being done around it, since all the surrounding claims are underway).
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Nemon
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18 Oct 2003

Location: Bergen

With "wide river" I guess we are agreeing that it should be enough for two ships to pass properly? At some points between 4-13 and Aevens detailing claim it has got a few narrow points and dangerous rocks (with shipwrecks below surface). Mostly though, it's +/- one cell wide. And that's way more than we had before.
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

I was thinking almost a cell wide. That should be enough for several ships to pass by each other. It's the biggest river in the province; I feel like it should be treated similar to the Mississippi River here in the states; for much of its length, you can't see from one bank to the other. Obviously MGE removes viewing distance issues, but the effect should be similar. (You can't jump it without Icarian Flight or similar incredi-strong spell)
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

This claim is now open.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Wondering: could I take this and merge with A2, and work on it as a single thing? It'd make it a lot more consistent as a region.
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Nemon
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18 Oct 2003

Location: Bergen

I wouldn't have anything against that, and consistency is one of our key objectives. But are you up for it? Smile
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

As long as you keep the files actually (literally) separate, you can claim both and work on them together for the sake of consistency. But they should be updated separately.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Then that's what I'll do Smile Claiming.

Is it okay for me to merge and later split?

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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

As far as my plan goes: make everything east of the former river a mountainy area with nice patches of green/light forest between. The current Indoril farm will be such an area, with perhaps paths to other such areas owned by the same Indoril person.

West of the former river will be TRV area, but be more like the sparser close-to-mountain areas as seen in 4-13 than the more lush A2.

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Nemon
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18 Oct 2003

Location: Bergen

Granted.

You are allowed to merge and split as much as you like during the modding, as long as you split the files when uploading a WIP. With simple cell naming that shouldn't take more than a couple of minutes in tesame.

Plus, and this is important, I want the south-eastern east bank cells to have a steadily increasing height in terms of landscape. Please make this transition smooth starting in 8 -30.

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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

How far south does the TRV region go? I ask because I fear it'll go too far south to Lake Andaram, and I can imagine that having a different region.
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Thrignar Fraxix
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Aeven wrote:
I ask because I fear it'll go too far south to Lake Andaram, and I can imagine that having a different region.


I'm fairly certain it extends to that lake, is there some reason you think it shouldn't?

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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

I wasn't too sure, and I ask because it can be hard to make such a vast region not too monotonous.
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

Yeah like the ashlands on Vvardenfell? But the only issue is that it might get slightly more wetlands-like and less fertile valley-like in the immediate area surrounding the lake due to it being standing water.
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Nemon
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18 Oct 2003

Location: Bergen

The lake doesn't start until -33. Your claim is down to -31, so you don't have to have that much regional changes.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

So I don't have a transitional area on my hands? If I do, I'd really like to know what your plans for Lake Andaram are. (I for one would love wetlands.)
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

Don't worry about a transition. Any transition will be minimal, and is as of yet undecided, as far as this claim is concerned.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

This file includes A2, but shows some of the work done on A3 so far.


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Nemon
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18 Oct 2003

Location: Bergen

In the southernmost cells, could you make a slight transition as shown on this picture?



As you can see the transition is to use more orange version of these trees (no WG-trees this far south) and GL_grass_01 (it matches the ai grass nicely).

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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Sure. My old file didn't edit that area a lot yet. I was planning to doze the WG shit.
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<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

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<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
Post Thu Nov 04, 2010 7:43 pm Send private message       Send e-mail       Reply with quote                   up  
Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Wait, transition to GL grass 01 or use it there as base?
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<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

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<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
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Nemon
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18 Oct 2003

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At the southernmost cell it should be more than 50% of the grassy area, so I guess base.
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Haplo
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Location: Celibacy

This needs an update within a week. And just like A2, the WIP should be just A3, uploaded in this threa.
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Haplo
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Location: Celibacy

Please update this, Aeven.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

I'll upload the file tomorrow.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Or today.


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<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

<~Haplo> I like cheese. I like cheese alot. yes. truly, in fact I love the cheese

<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
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Haplo
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Hey Aeven, this needs an update by tomorrow.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Wow, so soon? Time flies when you're bored shitless.
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<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

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<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
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If you want, I'll take this detailing claim off your hands for you, Aeven. I know you asked me a while back.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

DO WANT

I'll put up my latest file later.

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<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

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Haplo
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Any chance of that file soon?
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Aeven
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Location: Groningen

Here's the file.


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<Aeven> you couldn't resist Haplo?
<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

<~Haplo> I like cheese. I like cheese alot. yes. truly, in fact I love the cheese

<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
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Haplo
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30 Aug 2003

Location: Celibacy

Great. This is now Cathartis' claim.
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

Hey Cat, a suggestion: move the TRV area a bit back to the west, the region is FAR too large, and it doesn't make sense. My suggestion is to enlarge the mountain region, and dot it with small grassy areas throughout.
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<Aeven> you couldn't resist Haplo?
<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

<~Haplo> I like cheese. I like cheese alot. yes. truly, in fact I love the cheese

<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
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Aeven
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17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

I noticed I cleaned the landscape from cell 8 -29 by accident. Here's the file with just that cell, so you can merge it back in Smile


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<Aeven> you couldn't resist Haplo?
<~TF|> wow that could be misquoted

<Nemon> I've never understood the way of weed

<~Haplo> I like cheese. I like cheese alot. yes. truly, in fact I love the cheese

<+SamirA> butt hat is the endgame
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Bloodthirsty Crustacean
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Aeven wrote:
Hey Cat, a suggestion: move the TRV area a bit back to the west, the region is FAR too large, and it doesn't make sense. My suggestion is to enlarge the mountain region, and dot it with small grassy areas throughout.


Part of the point of the TRV was to break up the endless repition of WG mountains all over TR. I'd keep as much AI valley stuff as you can, even if it's not directly built around tributaries from the Thirr.

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I don't even know what TRV means, but I cannot disagree with anything that tries to break the endless amounts of WG mountains.
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Andres Indoril
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Thirr River Valley should be what TRV stands for. :O Unless it is Tamriel Rebuilt Virus.
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