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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Nitpicking, compared to what bugs we used to have.

7/8/2011 (22:45) TR_Map4v.98.esp 7/8/2011 (22:30) skraeling flora_tree_wg_07 TR_4-8 (-13,-28) -98949 -228951 873 "shading mismatch between northern and southern partt of 4-8"

7/8/2011 (22:47) TR_Map4v.98.esp 7/8/2011 (22:30) skraeling terrain_ashland_rock_09 TR_4-30 (-7,-26) -49299 -212595 1068 "4-9 vs 4-30 shading mismatch, also not enough objects on the border (at least eastwards from here)"

7/8/2011 (22:48) TR_Map4v.98.esp 7/8/2011 (22:30) skraeling flora_ashtree_06 TR_4-29-hla (-7,-24) -57032 -192224 1104 "west-east shading mismatch in 4-29"

7/8/2011 (23:00) TR_Map4v.98.esp 7/8/2011 (22:30) skraeling TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-21 (-2,-22) -8808 -174387 158 "There is a triangle of weird ground texture transitions around this rock. Has to do with claim borders, but not only them."

7/8/2011 (23:01) TR_Map4v.98.esp 7/8/2011 (22:30) skraeling terrain_rock_gl_08 TR_4-25 (-1,-22) -4628 -172921 489 "The former 4-25 vs 4-21 claim border IS noticeable here if you jump up high. Not a big deal, but some more rocks on the border would be good."


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Has the fate of Ladrys island been decided? Map 4 still has a little patch of it (bittercoast). If you ask me, nothing of value will be lost if it is axed, but I would be delighted to see some nice idyllic little isles in its stead. Or, if the objects of Tamriel allow it, an interesting underwater landscape that actually rewards exploration?

7/9/2011 (12:21) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_4-5 (-26,-5) -212800 -36650 5139 "slight shading mismatch on a west-east cell(?) border here. NOT a claim border i think."

7/9/2011 (12:24) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling ex_Snow_drift TR_4-5 (-22,-6) -172457 -43147 7380 "the hillside east of this has a very ugly ground texture transition. put a rock on that?"

7/9/2011 (12:26) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_07 TR_4-5 (-28,-5) -226742 -38935 7319 "slight east-west ground tex mismatch here, even if this is not a claim border (both sides are 4-5)"

7/9/2011 (12:29) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling Terrain_BM_snow_05 TR_4-5 (-22,-5) -179812 -40707 6717 "look at the ground here and you see 2 cell boundaries crossing"

7/10/2011 (14:34) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling terrain_rock_rm_15 TR_4-38-Red (-16,-8) -130600 -65040 8038 "ground texture mismatch east of this rock (4-38 vs 4-35)"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

7/10/2011 (15:50) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling TR_terrain_rock_RM_17 TR_4-35-Red (-15,-9) -121236 -65724 4415 "actually there is even a ground height mismatch here"

7/10/2011 (15:51) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling contain_trama_shrub_06 TR_4-35-Red (-15,-9) -116889 -66665 3776 "this place is seriously nontrivial to reach. maybe add a cave in the neighborhood, or a deserted camp with interesting items, or anything else worth the trouble of getting up here?"

7/10/2011 (15:52) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling flora_tree_ai_04 TR_4-39-Red (-13,-8) -105634 -65463 983 "4-39 vs 4-36 ground shading mismatch"

7/10/2011 (15:54) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling flora_tree_ai_04 TR_4-39-Red (-13,-8) -100021 -65231 1688 "4-39 vs 4-36 ground shading mismatch (same border, different place)"

7/10/2011 (15:52) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling Terrain_rocks_AI_01 TR_4-36-Red (-13,-9) -105803 -66224 555 "caspering"

7/10/2011 (16:13) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling TR_terr_GLCliff03-0.5 TR_4-48 (-7,-20) -53765 -155899 2838 "caspering (look from south)"

7/10/2011 (16:15) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-9 (-6,-24) -48954 -194480 674 "4-9 vs 4-29 slight shading mismatch (viewable if you jump high enough)"

7/10/2011 (16:16) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-30 (-7,-25) -49262 -197419 886 "4-9 vs 4-29 from here on, the mismatch is much more obvious, and also there are too few objects on the cell border (but i think i have already reported this)"


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Aeven
Lead Developer
17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) steam_lavariver TR_4-8 (-16,-28) -126151 -227051 8669 "The purple bit is visible in game"

TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) flora_gold_kanet_02 TR_4-39-Red (-14,-6) -114171 -42990 240 "spiky land next to this"

TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) flora_tree_wg_01 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-14) -79563 -106876 818 "consider changing this old style remnant to the nearby GL trees, as is common throughout the Roth Roryn"

TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) ex_redoran_tavern_01 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-13) -79602 -103788 1333 "chimney juts out of rock strangely. Consider moving 'into' the rock a bit more"

TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) TR_terrain_rock_gl_04 TR_4-17 (-6,-17) -45008 -139155 3453 "consider adding a black square to stop water simply flowing out of rock"
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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Not sure whether this is the right thread for map4alpha issues, but here is stuff that has accumulated since "release":

Terrain_BM_snow_02 TR_4-5 (-23,-5) -181341 -40710 6759 "north-south cell border here, with obvious ground shading mismatch"

Terrain_BM_snow_07 TR_4-5_Extracell (-22,-7) -179045 -49284 8942 "slight ground shading mismatch (north-south) here"

terrain_rock_rm_19 TR_4-35-Red (-17,-9) -133482 -66438 5633 "caspering"

terrain_rock_rm_18 TR_4-35-Red (-17,-10) -138937 -81321 6175 "ground shading mismatch (west-east) here"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_04 TR_4-38-Red (-15,-6) -120301 -41468 1256 "4-42 vs 4-38 ground shading mismatch"

terrain_rock_rm_14 TR_4-39-Red (-14,-6) -114680 -41097 45 "Casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-48 (-9,-18) -73290 -146996 1307 "here be ground creeks"

TR_terrain_GL_rock17 TR_4-48 (-6,-18) -41328 -146961 5410 "TR_terr_GLCliff02 seriously caspers nearby"

terrain_rock_gl_03 TR_4-17 (-5,-15) -39833 -122639 2409 "caspering"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_18 TR_4-17 (-5,-17) -33021 -131415 1152 "float/casper"

ex_dae_ruin_04 TR_4-20 (-3,-17) -18902 -131530 3213 "floats slightly over the ground (as usual...)"

ex_imp_wallent_02 TR_4-14 (-3,-13) -17488 -102048 4160 "WTF" fixed in NPCing claim

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-14 (-2,-15) -12893 -120470 2032 "caspering" fixed in NPCing claim

Terrain_rocks_WG_02 TR_4-25 (0,-22) 2922 -175136 902 "Casper"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-33 (-16,-12) -128244 -95916 4123 "float"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-35-Red (-16,-11) -128050 -89949 3132 "land tex mismatch"

terrain_ashland_rock_16 TR_4-28-Hla (-10,-24) -77764 -196043 1040 "float"

terrain_ashland_rock_16 TR_4-28-Hla (-10,-24) -77555 -196142 1105 "float"

flora_rm_scathecraw_02 TR_4-28-Hla (-10,-24) -77597 -196138 1174 "float"

ex_dae_ruin_stair01_short TR_4-28-Hla (-9,-25) -72830 -196958 942 "casper"

TR_terrain_AI_rock_05 TR_4-4-Hla (-7,-14) -56912 -114314 1038 "FLOAT"

hlaalu_loaddoor_ 02 TR_4-18-Hla (2,-16) 20692 -127721 1599 "wrong door for that frame"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Terrain_rocks_AI_03 TR_4-14 (-2,-13) -15107 -104032 3654 "casper slightly" fixed in NPCing claim

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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Last list for a while (I think).

in_velothismall_ndoor_01 TR_i3-285-ind 3904 2692 12160 "some door marker is too close to this door; move it away (the marker, not the door)"

steam_lavariver TR_4-8 (-16,-28) -126151 -227051 8669 "mesh is pink"

terrain_rock_rm_14 TR_4-42 Red (-15,-5) -115701 -40588 47 "claim border here (with creek and tex mismatch)"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-42 Red (-15,-5) -120727 -36248 458 "float"

TR_terrain_GL_rock19 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-19) -98282 -150284 5948 "floats, and ugly stuff around here"

ex_common_plat_cent TR_4-3-Red Bodrem (-12,-18) -94159 -140078 2615 "caspering (should be moved closer to the rocks)"

Flora_Ash_Grass_R_01 TR_4-49 (-5,-22) -35397 -179471 418 "needs signposts"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-20 (-3,-21) -21774 -171822 406 "float"

flora_root_wg_08 TR_4-24 (-1,-31) -7631 -249489 1319 "WTF"

flora_chokeweed_02 TR_4-24 (-1,-31) -7932 -249358 1592 "WTF"

Terrain_rocks_GL_01 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-27) 3602 -215694 2416 "slight caspering"

terrain_rock_wg_09 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-25) 2499 -204523 1684 "casper"

terrain_rock_ai_05 TR_4-11-Hla (1,-28) 16098 -223568 783 "floats"

flora_comberry_01 TR_4-11-Hla (1,-28) 16015 -223144 803 "floats"

flora_bc_grass_02 TR_4-11-Hla (1,-28) 15958 -222638 743 "floats"

ex_hlaalu_b_01 TR_4-18-Hla (3,-17) 28173 -132193 1275 "when I try to scale the staircase, something else's collision stands in my way"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

I can't keep promises.

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-43-Red Extra Cell (-18,-11) -140986 -87533 4803 "what about hiding some entrance to a Daedric ruin here, finding which could be the last quest of Andothren Mages Guild?"

terrain_rock_rm_15 TR_4-6 (-14,-21) -106670 -170513 344 "put some more flat statics here so one doesn't get stuck if one tries to jump one's way through"

terrain_rock_ma_550 TR_4-45-Red (-13,-23) -99131 -185792 1103 "epic floater"

terrain_rock_ma_550 TR_4-45-Red (-13,-23) -99398 -186105 1042 "floater"

terrain_rock_rm_04 TR_4-6 (-13,-22) -106086 -174059 1064 "floats"

ex_de_docks_centers TR_4-47-Red (-13,-18) -102656 -143055 2024 "too easy to get stuck here by falling off to the left when coming from above"

flora_wickwheat_01 TR_4-48 (-9,-20) -73524 -158504 1213 "angular terrain nearby in TR_4-3"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-48 (-9,-20) -69261 -163203 1160 "caspers"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_18 TR_4-48 (-9,-19) -73704 -152692 1318 "claim border devoid of objects" Nothing wrong here.

TR_terrain_rock_gl_18 TR_4-48 (-9,-18) -73475 -143232 1292 "land gap here with TR_4-3"

flora_wickwheat_01 TR_4-48 (-9,-18) -73522 -142029 1388 "vertex color mismatch with TR_4-3"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_18 TR_4-48 (-9,-18) -73626 -145943 1344 "land gap here with TR_4-3"

terrain_rock_gl_08 TR_4-17 (-9,-17) -73604 -134951 1355 "vertex color mismatch"

flora_tree_ai_02 TR_4-14 (-2,-14) -13695 -110430 4423 "very slight root caspering" fixed in NPCing thread

Terrain_rocks_GL_01 TR_4-20 (-1,-21) -674 -171263 954 "caspering"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-20 (0,-19) 7364 -148859 430 "caspers"

flora_plant_04 TR_4-20 Othras Plantation (1,-19) 9983 -154178 489 "floats"

flora_plant_04 TR_4-20 Othras Plantation (1,-19) 10026 -154221 520 "floats"

TR_flora_tree09_ND TR_4-18-Hla (3,-17) 27225 -137300 941 "floats"

TR_flora_tree03_ND TR_4-18-Hla (4,-19) 38964 -153218 1963 "caspers"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

terrain_rock_rm_18 TR_4-32-Red (-16,-18) -128393 -143643 3053 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -109995 -141958 2244 "gigafloat"

flora_stoneflower_01 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -110143 -142173 2337 "gigafloat"

flora_wickwheat_02 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -109938 -142127 2253 "gigafloat"

flora_wickwheat_01 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -110035 -141776 2130 "float"

flora_hackle-lo_01 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -110150 -141932 2113 "float"

flora_wickwheat_04 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -113671 -140973 1944 "float"

flora_wickwheat_04 TR_4-47-Red (-14,-18) -113587 -141159 1972 "float"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-47-Red (-13,-19) -99068 -151794 5721 "wtffffy hole here"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-47-Red (-13,-19) -99068 -151794 5721 "texture mismatch with TR-4-3"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_04 TR_4-23 (-10,-21) -81004 -168253 1660 "floats"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-3-Red (-10,-20) -78429 -160495 689 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-17 (-8,-16) -65068 -130295 2050 "caspers"

terrain_rock_gl_04 TR_4-17 Hlaalu plantation (-7,-16) -52306 -122940 1478 "floats"

Terrain_rocks_AI_01 TR_4-18-Hla (3,-19) 31061 -152833 3570 "caspers"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_04 TR_4-16 (-17,-26) -134397 -205868 6163 "caspers"

terrain_rock_wg_15 TR_4-38-Red (-16,-6) -130738 -48829 1480 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-6 (-15,-21) -115606 -170814 645 "caspers"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-8 (-13,-29) -102251 -229701 259 "texture transition fail here"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-39-Red (-13,-8) -104675 -58684 306 "casper"

TR_terrain_GL_rock14 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-20) -97524 -161299 2077 "land gap nearby"

flora_stoneflower_01 TR_4-36-Red (-12,-11) -93217 -85556 701 "TR_terrain_GL_rock16 caspers nearby"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-17) -75095 -135478 665 "caspers"

flora_tree_gl_01 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-17) -76717 -131529 1774 "floats"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-16) -75290 -127292 1127 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-15) -74461 -120963 546 "bad land texture seams nearby"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-2-Red (-10,-12) -79611 -96095 1668 "caspers"

terrain_rock_ai_01 TR_4-2-Red (-10,-12) -80796 -93386 2365 "floats"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-17 (-9,-15) -71950 -121316 201 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_GL_01 TR_4-17 (-9,-15) -70924 -114842 1882 "caspers/floats"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-17 (-8,-16) -64949 -128351 1745 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_03 TR_4-17 (-5,-15) -37009 -116981 1952 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_03 TR_4-14 (-4,-13) -29086 -101900 1460 "float" fixed in NPCing thread

terrain_ashland_rock_11 TR_4-24 (-3,-29) -19917 -230138 503 "here, the shading around the road changes form"

terrain_ashland_rock_11 TR_4-24 (-3,-29) -23059 -230078 505 "float"

terrain_ashland_rock_11 TR_4-24 (-3,-29) -23156 -229982 434 "float"

terrain_ashland_rock_11 TR_4-24 (-3,-29) -23056 -229845 420 "float"

flora_ash_grass_w_01 TR_4-24 (-3,-29) -23018 -229977 417 "float"

flora_ash_grass_b_01 TR_4-24 (-3,-29) -23062 -229942 409 "float"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-20 (-3,-18) -22225 -144550 2714 "slight caspering"

Terrain_rocks_WG_01 TR_4-11-Hla (0,-29) 2729 -236447 3428 "float"

Terrain_rocks_WG_01 TR_4-11-Hla (0,-29) 2398 -237551 3514 "float"


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

flora_heather_01 TR_4-43-Red Extra Cell (-18,-11) -139770 -87359 4892 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-43-Red Extra Cell (-18,-11) -140022 -87070 4918 "casper"

flora_heather_01 TR_4-43-Red Extra Cell (-18,-11) -139965 -87343 4869 "float"

ex_Snow_drift TR_4-22 (-17,-16) -134777 -129558 14661 "caspers (or is that too far out for us to care?)"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-22 (-16,-15) -126371 -120638 8342 "caspers"

terrain_rock_rm_19 TR_4-35-Red (-17,-11) -137246 -89403 5990 "casper"

terrain_rock_rm_14 TR_4-34-Red (-15,-14) -120634 -113972 3081 "caspers"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-34-Red (-15,-14) -121925 -112126 2484 "casper"

TR_terrain_rock_RM_07 TR_4-34-Red (-15,-14) -120729 -113252 2880 "hide something under this"

TR_terrain_rock_RM_07 TR_4-34-Red (-15,-13) -119138 -104661 3123 "macrocasper"

flora_tree_ai_01 TR_4-38-Red (-15,-6) -115460 -41362 516 "shading mismatch at cell border"

terrain_rock_rm_14 TR_4-42 Red (-14,-5) -111543 -40222 -1225 "height mismatch at cell border nearby"

TR_terrain_GL_rock19 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-19) -98294 -149246 2216 "floats"

TR_terrain_GL_rock17 TR_4-3-Red Bodrem (-12,-18) -90919 -146065 817 "floaaaaaaaating"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-40-Red (-12,-15) -96939 -119739 2056 "slightly caspering"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-40-Red (-12,-15) -95810 -119666 2153 "slightly caspering"


TR_terrain_GL_rock17 TR_4-40-Red (-11,-16) -89202 -125826 4910 "floats"

Ex_redoran_hut_01_a TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-11,-14) -83704 -108072 704 "bleeds through terrace"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-48 (-9,-18) -67389 -141012 5393 "slightly caspering"

Terrain_rocks_WG_02 TR_4-24 (-1,-29) -3766 -233861 2105 "casper"


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abot
TR Tester
30 Nov 2008



(4, -17) references to default persistent/unique Ex_Cave_Door_01_Koal should never be used, else it can screw MV_PoorPilgrim quest, better replace it with ex_cave_door_01
(I found this by chance investigating same problem with infernosIslandRevisited.esp, fkoa.esp)
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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Nemon: Can you check for the newest file now and post it on the thread? NPCing for this map (Teyn and Bodrem) might be able to start very soon, so TF wants to merge interiors into the map.

If you happen to have some time to fix the bugs that have been reported in and around Andothren and Bodrem (not sure if there are any of the latter), the better. Andothren currently has some weirdly intersecting house shells; I assume that any fixes to them might screw up interiors if they are done post merge.

Also, the usual bug reports:

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-2-Red (-10,-12) -76819 -91247 27 "casper"

flora_wickwheat_02 TR_4-48 (-6,-20) -43900 -160555 4958 "float"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-48 (-6,-20) -45965 -157961 5000 "casper"

flora_wickwheat_03 TR_4-48 (-6,-20) -42112 -156080 5950 "float"

terrain_ashland_rock_16 TR_4-49 (-5,-22) -34849 -177996 312 "texture mismatch"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-49 (-5,-21) -33639 -168191 20 "casper"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_17 TR_4-20 (-4,-20) -24929 -157716 510 "landscape cone nearby"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-20 (-3,-20) -23054 -156664 616 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-20 (-3,-19) -19298 -152073 -143 "floating and ground texture change"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-9 (-2,-24) -15269 -188647 401 "land gap"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-14 (-2,-14) -15841 -110392 4053 "slight casper" fixed in NPCing thread

terrain_rock_wg_10 TR_4-9-Hla (-1,-24) -6911 -189236 735 "land gap AND texture mismatch"

Terrain_rocks_GL_01 TR_4-25 (-1,-23) -3526 -186431 965 "float"


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Location: substitutional world

I feel stupid for making a post for these, but I won't probably find any more today:

Terrain_rocks_WG_03 TR_4-49 Iron Mine (-6,-21) -42017 -170941 620 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-20 (-4,-19) -32385 -150080 2084 "casper"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-20 (-4,-19) -26063 -155429 1190 "casper"

TR_f_blackrose02 TR_4-20 (-4,-18) -30878 -146525 1646 "float"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-20 (-3,-19) -18255 -147941 1749 "casper"


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Location: substitutional world

ex_Snow_drift TR_4-5 (-25,-6) -199059 -41119 7525 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-5 (-24,-6) -193130 -46636 9963 "slight casper"

terrain_rock_rm_21 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-7) -156048 -50529 2412 "land gap"

Flora_BM_grass_04 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-7) -156410 -50281 2479 "lots of submerged flora here"

Flora_BM_grass_04 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-7) -156410 -50281 2479 "and not just flora"

flora_heather_01 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-5) -163734 -35004 1850 "float"

Flora_BM_grass_01 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-5) -163760 -34948 1849 "float"

Flora_BM_grass_01 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-5) -163647 -34913 1839 "float"

terrain_rock_rm_22 TR_4-8 No access (-19,-28) -148962 -221257 7926 "floats"

Terrain_BM_snow_01 TR_4-16 Extra Cell (-19,-25) -155613 -198264 8237 "caspers"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-43-Red (-19,-7) -155600 -54821 3870 "land gap"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-16 Extra Cell (-18,-22) -145869 -177778 9180 "slight caspering"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-42 Red (-17,-5) -135684 -36056 779 "abrupt change of ground texture here"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-32-Red (-16,-19) -124721 -149726 2059 "minor casper"

terrain_ashland_rock_09 TR_4-44-Red (-15,-25) -115454 -200336 1082 "barren cell border nearby" Intentional multi-cellular region feature

contain_trama_shrub_02 TR_4-44-Red (-14,-26) -112918 -210399 930 "float"

Flora_Ash_Grass_R_01 TR_4-44-Red (-14,-26) -112935 -210341 858 "float"

flora_ashtree_06 TR_4-44-Red (-14,-26) -112760 -210279 993 "float"

flora_rm_scathecraw_01 TR_4-44-Red (-14,-26) -112875 -210337 749 "float"

ex_velothi_entrance_02 TR_4-39-Red (-14,-8) -114540 -64105 458 "the floor of this entry is kinda z-fighting with the ground. doesn't look very nice"

ex_de_shack_01 TR_4-39-Red (-14,-7) -109761 -50992 674 "there's a door frame w/o a door here" Not an error; these shacks don't require two doors every time.

terrain_rock_wg_15 TR_4-8 (-13,-28) -100473 -225219 1612 "Casper"

terrain_rock_wg_15 TR_4-8 (-13,-28) -100426 -225131 1633 "Casper"

Ex_De_Docks_Piling_01 TR_4-47-Red (-13,-18) -99254 -145727 3148 "TR_terr_GLCliff02 caspers near this piling"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-47-Red (-13,-19) -99068 -151794 5721 "mega float"

TR_terrain_GL_rock17 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-19) -97124 -152698 5493 "giga float"

TR_terrain_GL_rock19 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-19) -98282 -150284 5948 "tera float"

TR_terrain_GL_rock17 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-19) -97124 -152698 5493 "shading mismatch and pointy terrain"

flora_tree_wg_06 TR_4-3-Red (-12,-19) -97496 -148261 3570 "caspers through tr_terrain_gl_rock18"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-3-Red (-11,-18) -82298 -142852 3431 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-40-Red (-11,-17) -84045 -136003 2130 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-40-Red (-11,-17) -83740 -136279 2126 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-40-Red (-11,-16) -86858 -128768 995 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-45-Red (-10,-23) -75193 -186783 1975 "caspering"

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-3-Red (-10,-18) -81790 -141754 3457 "casper"

terrain_rock_gl_04 TR_4-3-Red (-10,-18) -74942 -143322 1598 "casper"

terrain_rock_gl_11 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-17) -78995 -138499 -125 "spiky terrain nearby (on river ground)"

Flora_kelp_01 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-16) -79816 -127802 -122 "floats"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-2-Red (-10,-12) -81584 -95340 2092 "land texture change, and possibly unrealistically narrow road"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_18 TR_4-17 (-9,-16) -73636 -130037 1142 "shading"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-48 (-8,-20) -63274 -163341 1259 "land gap nearby"

TR_terr_GLCliff02 TR_4-48 (-5,-19) -40121 -149980 -1635 "caspers heavily" Need more precise location data to triangulate the caspering; this mesh is fucking HUGE. I couldn't find any caspering in the CS.

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-4-Hla (-5,-14) -38658 -106999 549 "casper"

TR_flora_fireflower_03 TR_4-20 (-4,-17) -28466 -134276 540 "bad change of ground textures nearby"

TR_terrain_AI_rock_08 TR_4-14 (-3,-13) -20738 -98522 -1583 "shading mismatch on cell border (not claim border!)" fixed in NPCing thread

TR_terrain_AI_rock_18 TR_4-14 (-3,-12) -23819 -97240 -2219 "shading mismatch on cell border (not claim border!)" fixed in NPCing thread

misc_com_bottle_12 TR_4-18-Hla (3,-17) 28484 -132547 779 "this and two goblets nearby float"

TR_4-3-Red Bodrem stuff, be careful with the ongoing NPCing claim:

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-47-Red (-13,-18) -100502 -146074 3339 "add a Bodrem banner?"

in_redoran_ladder_01 TR_i4-282-red 5440 4224 14986 "ladder must be linked"

ex_redoran_tower_01 Bodrem (-12,-18) -94820 -146342 3465 "it should be linked with the top of this tower"

ex_de_docks_corner_01 Bodrem (-12,-18) -94528 -145664 2816 "stilt blocks passage into house"


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Location: substitutional world

These bugs are all in TR_4-14

[all moved to the North AT thread]


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Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Mostly stuff from Kragenmoor and around. The empty-plaza comments should probably be fixed (or not) before Kragenmoor NPCing begins...

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-16 Extra Cell (-20,-26) -156302 -207230 11230 "land gap nearby"

TR_m4-8_GateBig02 TR_4-8 Shadowmoth Legion Fort (-18,-29) -147358 -235954 3560 "change script to tr_gatecyrodiil or however it's called"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-32-Red (-17,-22) -135939 -176481 6005 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-8 (-15,-31) -119832 -247964 874 "ground texture mismatch"

terrain_rock_rm_22 TR_4-8 Kragenmoor (-15,-29) -120814 -236266 2272 "ugly texture transition nearby"

terrain_rock_rm_17 TR_4-6 (-15,-22) -117541 -176782 1604 "float a lot"

iron dagger TR_4-8 Kragenmoor (-14,-31) -109330 -247237 378 "is table stabbing still cool?"

terrain_rock_ai_10 TR_4-8 Kragenmoor (-14,-31) -108497 -250992 179 "this rock is supposed to cover a texture mismatch but doesn't do it perfectly"

terrain_rock_ai_03 TR_4-8 Kragenmoor (-14,-31) -109543 -252541 140 "ground texture mismatch"

TR_cont_De_vase_03 TR_4-8 Kragenmoor (-14,-30) -114115 -243166 1280 "huge-ass plaza, what about some trees? market stands? flowerbeds?"

TR_m4-8_banner_Slavetrader TR_4-8 Kragenmoor (-14,-29) -110688 -234144 1439 "this plaza might also need some beautification"

terrain_rock_rm_20 TR_4-6 (-14,-22) -112376 -174251 1185 "Casper"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-34-Red (-14,-13) -106622 -100659 2725 "slight caspering"

Terrain_rocks_WG_02 TR_4-8 (-12,-30) -90783 -244086 430 "land gap nearby"
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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Why on #tamriel brought up the idea of putting some deserted Redoran settlement in the Armun Ash. What do you think of it?

Chatlog

[20:30] Why: we really need to inventorize all our Redoran settlements
[20:30] Why: Hlaalu, too, really
[20:42] Why: as in, make a list of what's where
[20:42] Why: because I find myself wondering if we have any Redoran presence in the Armun at all
[20:42] Why: and I'm more and more starting to believe we don't
[20:43] Why: (so I'm considering making that a thing and suggesting we fix that)
[20:43] arvisrend: we have a bit to the west of it
[20:43] Why: a small settlement-in-the-actual-ashlands at the 4-44 area would be nice
[20:43] Why: hm, actual housing?
[20:44] Why: because I've been skimming through it and I can't find any
[20:44] arvisrend: the 3 houses in that pine forest stripe between Armun and the Valus Mtns
[20:44] Why: yes, in the pine forest
[20:45] Why: but right now we don't really have Redoran to complain about Hlaalu expansionism there :P
[20:45] Why: Bodrem is the closest
[20:46] Why: and that little Velothi mountains hamlet is the southernmost Redoran thing I can find
[20:46] Why: Bodrem is the southernmost relevant Redoran thing atm
[20:46] Why: but I'd like to have something in the Ashlands
[20:47] Why: actually an abandoned ashlands outpost would be neat as hell
[20:47] Why: with the broken Redoran walls and ash-covered buildings
[20:48] Skah: More actually abandoned things would be interesting.
[20:58] Why: I'll ask Nemon if that can't be a thing
[20:58] Why: I have a feeling he'll enjoy it
[20:59] arvisrend: me too
[20:59] arvisrend: you know what I'd hell of enjoy?
[20:59] arvisrend: models for half-ruined red houses
[21:00] Why: hm yes
[21:00] arvisrend: I see two places in the AA where we could have that village
[21:00] arvisrend: though there might be more
[21:01] Why: I was thinking just alongside the north road from Kragenmoor
[21:01] Why: in 4-7 or 4-44
[21:02] Why: but Nemon'll know better
[21:02] arvisrend: 1/26/2013 (20:54) TR_Map4v.990.ESP 12/20/2012 (00:35) skraeling TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-7-Red (-11,-24) -84679 -194319 396 "open ground -- might be a place for Redoran ruins"
[21:02] arvisrend: 1/26/2013 (20:55) TR_Map4v.990.ESP 12/20/2012 (00:35) skraeling terrain_ashland_rock_12 TR_4-46 (-9,-28) -70852 -221652 803 "open ground -- might be a place for Redoran ruins"
[21:02] Why: or you, since you bug report all the things
[21:02] arvisrend: the problem with my places is, there are no roads
[21:02] arvisrend: but they shouldn't be very far from yours
[21:02] arvisrend: they're NNE of Kragenmoor
[21:03] Skah: They don't _need_ roads, I would think.
[21:03] Skah: Being abandoned and all.
[21:03] arvisrend: yeah
[21:04] Why: some hints of a road would be cool
[21:04] arvisrend: but roads don't disappear too quickly
[21:04] Why: but I suppose roads would be the first thing to be buried by shifting ash
[21:04] Why: it'd be neat to have signposts pointing towards the recently abandoned village thing though
[21:04] arvisrend: oh right it's ashlands
[21:05] Why: Adanorcil, thoughts?
[21:05] Adanorcil: ok by me
[21:05] Adanorcil: though should probably have a point to it, no?
[21:05] Adanorcil: something to do there?
[21:05] Adanorcil: then again
[21:05] Adanorcil: nah, it doesn't need that even
[21:06] Why: just a testament to receding Redoran influence
[21:06] Skah: Also nice to just have things like that to find. Exploration is fun like that.
[21:07] arvisrend: you're right about 4-44, that's cool too
[21:07] arvisrend: the AA is currently a tad short of interesting ruins
[21:07] arvisrend: 2 Daedric, but otherwise?
[21:07] arvisrend: oh and the Dwemer
[21:08] arvisrend: for some reason all along the western border
[21:08] Why: I kind of like how desolate it is
[21:08] arvisrend: though that village probably will be there too
[21:08] arvisrend: abandoned houses add to that feeling though

Why's suggestions: 4-7 and 4-44

My suggestions:

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-7-Red (-11,-24) -84679 -194319 396 "open ground -- might be a place for Redoran ruins"

terrain_ashland_rock_12 TR_4-46 (-9,-28) -70852 -221652 803 "open ground -- might be a place for Redoran ruins"

terrain_ashland_rock_04 TR_4-30 (-8,-25) -64708 -198816 952 "might also be a place for Redoran ruins"

terrain_rock_rm_15 TR_4-45-Red (-15,-23) -120197 -185875 816 "might also be a place for Redoran ruins"


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As usual some bugs, too:

terrain_rock_rm_21 TR_4-16 (-17,-23) -132158 -182414 2187 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-34-Red (-12,-14) -95562 -114564 1917 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-34-Red (-12,-14) -95562 -114564 1917 "also ugly hole nearby"

flora_tree_gl_07 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-11,-14) -85914 -109380 3183 "casper"

flora_kreshweed_01 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-14) -78582 -109992 989 "does a poor job of hiding a huge-ass caspering rock"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-14) -78889 -110965 1841 "said rock"

TR_terr_GLCliff02-0.5 TR_4-48 (-9,-18) -70881 -143730 780 "cliff caspers at its northern edge"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_16 TR_4-48 (-7,-19) -54960 -152013 5504 "go a few steps north and you'll find tr_terr_glcliff03-0.5 caspering where it meets the landscape" Could not replicate this error.

Terrain_rocks_GL_01 TR_4-48 (-7,-19) -54649 -152351 5734 "Casper"

TR_barrel_01_cheapfood5 TR_4-17 Hlaalu plantation (-7,-16) -51390 -124335 1541 "bleeding too far in ground or ok?" Much too far; good catch

Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-48 (-5,-18) -33351 -144130 1686 "angular terrain"

TR_f_blackrose02 TR_4-20 (-4,-18) -31908 -147382 1630 "looks like ugly submerging"

TR_terrain_rock_gl_18 TR_4-20 (-3,-21) -18885 -164154 416 "this rock ALMOST hides the texture mismatch, but... ALMOST"

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-20 (-3,-20) -20692 -161971 180 "ugly texture transition here"

terrain_ashland_rock_01 TR_4-9 (-2,-25) -14936 -203144 329 "float"


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Lead Developer
04 Jul 2009

Location: Utrecht

To expand on that a bit, the main reason I'd like to see something like this is because while we're sporting the idea that Redoran has been losing ground and influence to Hlaalu there's hardly any physical evidence of that at all, and it's always seemed sort of odd to me that while the Redoran are all into the Ashlands in vanilla, they have no settlements in the dry ashlands on the mainland.
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Lead Developer
15 Feb 2009

Location: Minnesota: The Land of 11,842 Lakes

Seems to me like a reasonable idea.

Perhaps one of the houses in the village can be inhabited by an extremly old Redoran hetman who refused to leave. Kind of like the "Hidden Village" from the Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess.

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Aeven
Lead Developer
17 Aug 2008

Location: Groningen

I observed in Kartur we seem to have WG trees, whereas the wilderness around it all has GL trees, and the coast nearby has AI. I believe they date from when the region was a WG clone, but it feels weird. What person in their right mind places West Gash trees in their town when there are much nicer things around?

Edit: added a BetaComment log

TR_Map4v.989.esp terrain_ashland_rock_16 TR_4-9 (-6,-25) -48098 -199892 1430 "spiky terrain next to it"

TR_Map4v.989.esp terrain_rock_rm_14 TR_4-49 (-6,-22) -43699 -175537 2177 "caspering on the south side"

TR_Map4v.989.esp terrain_rock_ai_12 TR_4-17 (-8,-15) -61457 -119378 -44 "pointy land spike near it"

TR_Map4v.989.esp furn_de_r_bench_01 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-11,-13) -84832 -106182 837 "bench in the rock?"

TR_Map4v.989.esp Ex_redoran_hut_01_a TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-11,-13) -84787 -105699 912 "door not usable due to the animation of the banner"

TR_Map4v.989.esp TR_terrain_GL_rock19 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-11,-13) -83977 -104573 1763 "caspering when standing in front of the door. Place another rock nearby?"

TR_Map4v.989.esp ex_v_stdeyln_01 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-13) -80908 -104341 1277 "statue. Looks nice, but appropriate?"

TR_Map4v.989.esp Furn_Planter_MH_04 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-14) -81907 -108797 1165 "Indoril-style planter, should and could be replaced with generic"

TR_Map4v.989.esp furn_de_lightpost_01 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-14) -80855 -107022 1010 "Floating lantern and post in the air"

TR_Map4v.989.esp flora_root_wg_03 TR_4-2-Red Kartur (-10,-13) -78598 -105945 205 "wrong root type. I suggest replacing all the trees here with GL anyway, or AI"

TR_Map4v.989.esp flora_tree_ai_02 TR_4-14 (-2,-14) -13695 -110430 4423 "slight caspering on approach from downhill" fixed in NPCing thread

TR_Map4v.989.esp flora_bc_grass_01 TR_4-14 (-2,-14) -13740 -110710 3791 "sunk too deep" fixed in NPCing thread
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04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

terrain_rock_rm_22 TR_4-8 (-17,-28) -135715 -221975 3409 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-35-Red (-15,-10) -118382 -80046 1281 "caspers"

flora_kreshweed_03 TR_4-36-Red (-14,-9) -107619 -66534 417 "float"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-39-Red (-14,-8) -107132 -59276 566 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_04 TR_4-39-Red (-14,-8) -110027 -57499 -435 "casper"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-42 Red (-14,-5) -112620 -36936 -1387 "casper"

terrain_rock_bc_18 TR_4-42 Red (-14,-5) -114303 -34543 -1185 "casper"

TR_terrain_GL_rock15 TR_4-36-Red (-13,-10) -106310 -80700 4029 "casper"

flora_tree_gl_07 TR_4-40-Red (-10,-15) -76504 -115095 1633 "little land gap nearby"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-48 (-9,-20) -73004 -161924 1516 "casper"

Ex_barnacles_02 TR_4-2-Red (-8,-13) -58112 -102845 -601 "not good, or is it?" Not good

Ex_barnacles_02 TR_4-2-Red (-8,-13) -60650 -103132 -427 "not good, or is it?"

Flora_kelp_03 TR_4-2-Red (-8,-13) -60761 -103343 -239 "float"

Flora_kelp_01 TR_4-2-Red (-8,-13) -59328 -100272 -1075 "float"

kollop_02_pearl TR_4-2-Red (-8,-13) -63610 -99076 -754 "not good, or is it?"

kollop_02_pearl TR_4-2-Red (-8,-13) -63530 -99296 -738 "not good, or is it?"

Flora_kelp_02 TR_4-4-Hla (-7,-13) -55238 -100841 -973 "root bleeds through the rock, anyway weird inverted position" Cool idea, but poor execution due to lack of proper model. Removed.

The following are subjective impressions of mine, not bugs; you have been warned:

TR_terrain_AI_rock_18 TR_4-14 (-4,-12) -31741 -95311 -1210 "some more detailing? (again, close to Teyn)" fixed by Rats in NPC thread

Terrain_rocks_GL_03 TR_4-17 (-5,-17) -37398 -135217 3531 "casper"

terrain_rock_gl_05 TR_4-17 (-5,-17) -35365 -137688 1497 "casper"

terrain_rock_gl_05 TR_4-17 (-5,-15) -39314 -122609 2335 "casper"

flora_heather_01 TR_4-17 (-5,-15) -40740 -114710 506 "float"

flora_heather_01 TR_4-17 (-5,-15) -40698 -114804 506 "float"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-17 (-5,-15) -34292 -119569 1222 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-4-Hla (-5,-14) -37444 -113498 972 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_03 TR_4-4-Hla (-5,-12) -33600 -96638 318 "texture mismatch at cell border

ex_longboat TR_4-14 (-3,-14) -24079 -107368 84 "gangplank needed maybe" fixed by Rats in NPC thread


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04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Stuff from the old thread, fixed but possible regression due to 4-1 edits:

[all moved to North AT thread]


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arvisrend
Lead Developer
04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

This is just to record three things:

1) The following parts of map 4 are currently cut out for NPCing (officially except for 4-1, which was Sload's guerilla claim):

4-1 (Andothren) Sload
4-3 (Bodrem) Sload
4-13 (unnamed plantation) Rats
4-14 (Teyn, Ancylis) Rats
4-26 (south Thirr) Yeti, now in reviewing
4-37 (coast north of Kartur) Rats
4-38 (Verarchen) BC
(I hope I've got them all)

2) Haplo is currently killing bugs throughout the rest of Heartland (apart from borders to the cut-off parts, which can probably only be fixed upon remerge). THANKS HAPLO!

Haplo is working from a file of Jan 18th, 2013 with version number Map 4.989. While there is a file with a bigger version number around (4.990), apparently that file is older (wut) and I'm hoping that they only differ in merged ints, which we shouldn't bother with right now because they're in the cut-out claims anyway. Notling, if I'm wrong about this, please correct me!

EDIT: Made a diff of the two files. Nothing was lost. (Notling only merged in some ints, but those have been kept.)


3) Eventually someone will need to replace all deprecated TR books by their replacements. Finding them is easy (their names are "deprecated!", and you can filter by name); replacing them should be easy too (the book text tells which book it is replaced by), although somewhat laborious.

4) Two more bugs :P

flora_bush_01 TR_4-20 (0,-19) 5657 -154020 746 "this bush and the one nearby seem to grow from the (duplo and rather badly textured) rock"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_02 TR_4-5_Extracell (-21,-7) -166288 -49455 3537 "Casper"

terrain_rock_rm_23 TR_4-43-Red (-20,-7) -163546 -50105 2104 "here be landgaps"

Terrain_BM_snow_02 TR_4-5 (-26,-5) -207334 -37624 6445 "Casp"

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_04 TR_4-42 Red (-17,-5) -133142 -37830 718 "casp"


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The 4-37 claim doesn't seem to exist.
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04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

Yeti: It's in N/A, which you can't see. Looks like our forum permissions are more fucked up than even I used to believe. Haplo Edit: This isn't a fuck-up. N/A forums are for management only.

Here are bugs I cut out of the above reports. Bold = fixed in NPC claim; "border issue" = cannot be fixed before re-merge.

4-13

TR_terrain_AI_rock_18 TR_4-13 (4,-24) 36582 -188810 754 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (4,-22) 35039 -179441 2679 "caspers"

TR_terrain_AI_rock_08 TR_4-13 (3,-21) 25347 -170525 2267 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (3,-21) 25743 -169285 1000 "caspers"

TR_flora_tree11_ND TR_4-13 (2,-25) 18904 -196724 600 "float"

terrain_rock_ai_05 TR_4-13 (2,-24) 18422 -195109 223 "float"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (2,-22) 16954 -179653 834 "casper"

terrain_rock_ai_05 TR_4-13 (2,-21) 20609 -167749 420 "casper"

terrain_rock_ai_05 TR_4-13 (2,-21) 20529 -167821 433 "casper"

terrain_rock_ai_01 TR_4-13 (2,-21) 20651 -167843 403 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (1,-27) 12069 -213268 2343 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (1,-26) 13170 -205967 2765 "slightly caspers"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (1,-24) 16278 -192075 1177 "casper"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-13 (1,-23) 15220 -186914 1559 "casp"


Terrain_rocks_GL_04 TR_4-13 (1,-20) 9732 -163595 443 "Casper"

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-13 (1,-20) 9913 -162981 479 "Casper"


Terrain_rocks_AI_01 TR_4-13 (4,-20) 32835 -156690 2557 "casper"

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4-37

ex_velothi_entrance_02 TR_4-37 (-11,-11) -83228 -88234 811 "this entrance covers a land texture seam, but not completely"

terrain_rock_bc_16 TR_4-37 (-11,-9) -85257 -65694 329 "height mismatch" border issue

ex_dae_ruin_entry.max TR_4-37 (-11,-10) -84078 -81711 627 "caspers"

1/31/2013 (02:33) TR_Map4v.989.esp 12/17/2012 (20:31) Windows Terrain_rocks_AI_02 TR_4-37 (-10,-11) -77669 -89337 27 "claim landgap here" border issue

7/10/2011 (15:59) TR_Map4v.985.ESP 7/9/2011 (10:37) skraeling Terrain_rocks_AI_03 TR_4-37 (-10,-11) -80216 -89786 449 "4-37 vs 4-2 ground shading mismatch" border issue


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04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

4-38 bugreports:

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_03 TR_4-38-Red (-17,-7) -135658 -51429 880 "road is weird here" I am not sure what I meant -- arvisrend

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-38-Red (-17,-6) -133438 -41598 1930 "casper" border issue

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_01 TR_4-38-Red (-16,-8) -125016 -61327 981 "casper"

TR_terrain_rock_RM_17 TR_4-38-Red Verarchen (-16,-7) -126032 -49608 1382 "casp0ring"


flora_root_wg_02 TR_4-38-Red Verarchen (-16,-7) -124511 -53059 1667 "roots from rock? Also consider changing WG trees to the nearby AI or BM style" someone with a better eye for style should fix this

terrain_rock_wg_15 TR_4-38-Red (-16,-6) -130738 -48829 1480 "casper" I don't know why this was bolded out in the old thread, but now it's actually fixed.

TR_terrain_rocks_RM_04 TR_4-38-Red (-15,-7) -120748 -53247 -152 "slight casper"

flora_gold_kanet_01 TR_4-38-Red (-15,-6) -115548 -42117 287 "several floaters here" fixed but needs to be rechecked as it is near border

flora_tree_ai_05 TR_4-38-Red (-15,-6) -118585 -41768 1609 "slight floatage" border issue

flora_tree_ai_01 TR_4-38-Red (-15,-6) -115460 -41362 516 "floats" border issue
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arvisrend
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04 Oct 2010

Location: substitutional world

What are the correct TR_Data object IDs of the following map 4 statics:

TR_oth_flora_grass_01
TR_oth_flora_LAmush11
TR_oth_flora_LAmush12
TR_oth_flora_LAmush21
TR_oth_flora_LAmush22
TR_oth_flora_LAmush31


They appear in 4-24 and should be replaced.

EDIT: More issues, mostly on the WG deadlands between the TRV and the Armun Ashes. I'm not asking for a redesign of this whole region (it's OK as WG imho, not least because it's rather small), but some detailing will be needed.

c means "casper".

Terrain_rocks_GL_02 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-27) 2426 -217437 2036 "c"

Terrain_rocks_WG_02 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-27) 2193 -214422 2098 "c"

terrain_rock_wg_09 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-26) 4473 -211606 2417 "c"

Terrain_rocks_WG_02 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-26) 6459 -209323 1256 "c"

terrain_rock_wg_11 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-25) 824 -200894 1227 "bad landtex junctions here"

Terrain_rocks_WG_04 TR_4-9-Hla (0,-25) 3772 -196863 1869 "c"

TR_terrain_GL_rock20 TR_4-20 (-1,-21) -3605 -169949 686 "bad landtex junctions here"

TR_terrain_GL_rock16 TR_4-20 (-1,-21) -6873 -167079 1328 "c"


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Location: Celibacy

arvisrend wrote:
What are the correct TR_Data object IDs of the following map 4 statics:

TR_oth_flora_grass_01
TR_oth_flora_LAmush11
TR_oth_flora_LAmush12
TR_oth_flora_LAmush21
TR_oth_flora_LAmush22
TR_oth_flora_LAmush31

They appear in 4-24 and should be replaced.

I don't think these exist in TR_Data. Possibly over zealous use of custom files that ended up not being added?

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I've cut out lots of bug reports from here to later paste them into the North Andothren-Thirr and South Andothren-Thirr threads.
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